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- Lifer
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M seat ideas.
Looking to change the standard seats for something with more side bolster support especially, and generally a better seat than standard. Budget is not really an issue, just want something....well, better in every respect I guess... The standard seats are pretty poor imho, especially when BMW did adjustable side bolsters in the E46 M3 and are soooo much more comfortable.
Any suggestions..?
Any suggestions..?
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- Lifer
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M seat ideas.
Depends how far you want to go, and what you’re actually looking for in a seat.
The standard Z4M seats were crap in my opinion…a huge quality & comfort downgrade from what I had in my e34 M5, with no support for hips or thighs.
Of course, you can put E46 M3 seats in…or CSL Recaro seats (if you can find them)…Recaro Speed, or go all the way to bucket seats like Pole Positions, or full carbon Tilletts.
However, I would highly recommend trying the bucket seats before buying/fitting to make sure your body shape fits the seat shape…unlike standard car seats that are made to a wider body shape tolerance.
The standard Z4M seats were crap in my opinion…a huge quality & comfort downgrade from what I had in my e34 M5, with no support for hips or thighs.
Of course, you can put E46 M3 seats in…or CSL Recaro seats (if you can find them)…Recaro Speed, or go all the way to bucket seats like Pole Positions, or full carbon Tilletts.
However, I would highly recommend trying the bucket seats before buying/fitting to make sure your body shape fits the seat shape…unlike standard car seats that are made to a wider body shape tolerance.
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M seat ideas.
Agree 100% on the standard seats, utter rubbish and poor show from BMW. I've had M3 seats in it but they sit so high you feel like Noddy driving a toy car, a shame as they're very comfy. I'm after a supportive but comfy chair , i think Tillets would be far too hardcore, I don't want anything track focused.mmm-five wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:38 pm Depends how far you want to go, and what you’re actually looking for in a seat.
The standard Z4M seats were crap in my opinion…a huge quality & comfort downgrade from what I had in my e34 M5, with no support for hips or thighs.
Of course, you can put E46 M3 seats in…or CSL Recaro seats (if you can find them)…Recaro Speed, or go all the way to bucket seats like Pole Positions, or full carbon Tilletts.
However, I would highly recommend trying the bucket seats before buying/fitting to make sure your body shape fits the seat shape…unlike standard car seats that are made to a wider body shape tolerance.
M roady...OEM CSL’s, strut brace, Remus back boxes, ZHP
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
G29
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
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I think part of the issue is the narrow space to fit other seats in. If you lower the seat by removing rails or mounts, then they won’t sit in the space properly, and if you put them at the correct height they win’s adjust down enough…although I thought the manual M3 seats went lower than the electric ones…I know I can’t see over the steering wheel in my 320d if I have the seats (heated, manual M-Sport seats with electric bolsters) at their lowest setting
Of course, unless someone else has tried, you won’t know what seats from other BMWs (like later M2/3/4/5s) are likely to physically fit
Of course, unless someone else has tried, you won’t know what seats from other BMWs (like later M2/3/4/5s) are likely to physically fit
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i really love the way the stock seats look and the leather quality was nice imo..... thats where it ends, zero support and WAYYYY heavier than i ever could have imagined.
The carbon tillet is no where near as uncomfortable as they appear ( they are properly contoured to the body) and have literally transformed this car as much as any mod ive done. The seating position is so awesome, the way your legs now just push out in front of you with the slightly reclined seat that sits you LOW into the cabin. The relationship with pedals and gear lever has never been better in this car. Th biggest plus is the way they fit the cabin, its like they were always meant for the z4. Even as slim as they are , you can really see how space limited the z4 is. Probably the best bucket ive ever sat in and the way they hold you in place is poetry, they are also extremely comfortable hard to believe but NO less than stock and in some areas more comfortable. If these are too extreme for you, id look towards the Pole position ( supremely comfortable ) but they foul the door card ( or every z4 that has come to work with them in has )
m5 is correct definitely go to a shop and try them, i went through 3 sets and lost a fortune and very nearly gave up.... i took a rather pricey gamble on the tillet B5 carbon shells. Lastly this is a costly route , expect to more than you think making this happen.
Edit ; one thing i dont about the tillet is how difficult it is to now enter and exit the car
Any excuse to post a pic of these
The carbon tillet is no where near as uncomfortable as they appear ( they are properly contoured to the body) and have literally transformed this car as much as any mod ive done. The seating position is so awesome, the way your legs now just push out in front of you with the slightly reclined seat that sits you LOW into the cabin. The relationship with pedals and gear lever has never been better in this car. Th biggest plus is the way they fit the cabin, its like they were always meant for the z4. Even as slim as they are , you can really see how space limited the z4 is. Probably the best bucket ive ever sat in and the way they hold you in place is poetry, they are also extremely comfortable hard to believe but NO less than stock and in some areas more comfortable. If these are too extreme for you, id look towards the Pole position ( supremely comfortable ) but they foul the door card ( or every z4 that has come to work with them in has )
m5 is correct definitely go to a shop and try them, i went through 3 sets and lost a fortune and very nearly gave up.... i took a rather pricey gamble on the tillet B5 carbon shells. Lastly this is a costly route , expect to more than you think making this happen.
Edit ; one thing i dont about the tillet is how difficult it is to now enter and exit the car
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- Lifer
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Aahhhh I didnt know manual M3 seats sat lower than lekky, although having said that you'd lose the adjustable side bolster option I'm thinking..? Recaro ergomed look pretty much perfect, same kind of seat but hopefully lower.mmm-five wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:12 pm I think part of the issue is the narrow space to fit other seats in. If you lower the seat by removing rails or mounts, then they won’t sit in the space properly, and if you put them at the correct height they win’s adjust down enough…although I thought the manual M3 seats went lower than the electric ones…I know I can’t see over the steering wheel in my 320d if I have the seats (heated, manual M-Sport seats with electric bolsters) at their lowest setting
Of course, unless someone else has tried, you won’t know what seats from other BMWs (like later M2/3/4/5s) are likely to physically fit
M roady...OEM CSL’s, strut brace, Remus back boxes, ZHP
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
G29
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
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- Lifer
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But realistically how much time could you spend in those Tillets Byron...?Beedub wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:29 pm i really love the way the stock seats look and the leather quality was nice imo..... thats where it ends, zero support and WAYYYY heavier than i ever could have imagined.
The carbon tillet is no where near as uncomfortable as they appear ( they are properly contoured to the body) and have literally transformed this car as much as any mod ive done. The seating position is so awesome, the way your legs now just push out in front of you with the slightly reclined seat that sits you LOW into the cabin. The relationship with pedals and gear lever has never been better in this car. Th biggest plus is the way they fit the cabin, its like they were always meant for the z4. Even as slim as they are , you can really see how space limited the z4 is. Probably the best bucket ive ever sat in and the way they hold you in place is poetry, they are also extremely comfortable hard to believe but NO less than stock and in some areas more comfortable. If these are too extreme for you, id look towards the Pole position ( supremely comfortable ) but they foul the door card ( or every z4 that has come to work with them in has )
m5 is correct definitely go to a shop and try them, i went through 3 sets and lost a fortune and very nearly gave up.... i took a rather pricey gamble on the tillet B5 carbon shells. Lastly this is a costly route , expect to more than you think making this happen.
Edit ; one thing i dont about the tillet is how difficult it is to now enter and exit the car
Any excuse to post a pic of these
M roady...OEM CSL’s, strut brace, Remus back boxes, ZHP
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
G29
MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
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Agree about the stock seats, they are awful in terms of support and were very poorly rated from new.
For me, lower back support is awful. Both myself and my partner suffer on long journeys, the only car to give us any grief.
I like the S2000 seat swap, might give that a go one day.
For me, lower back support is awful. Both myself and my partner suffer on long journeys, the only car to give us any grief.
I like the S2000 seat swap, might give that a go one day.
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I must be strange as I really like the M-Sport seats.
Although the Nappa leather in my M is much nicer than the Oregon leather my previous cars had.
I did sit in a carbon Tillet in a Z4 once and it was more comfortable than I expected, but I'm not sure how long I'd want to spend in one!
Although the Nappa leather in my M is much nicer than the Oregon leather my previous cars had.
I did sit in a carbon Tillet in a Z4 once and it was more comfortable than I expected, but I'm not sure how long I'd want to spend in one!
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Probably far longer than one would think..... The extreme appearance is very decieving.. but I also understand they aren't for everyone. Any ideas or links for some ideas your thinking ?? The leather pole position are porn.john-e89 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:57 pmBut realistically how much time could you spend in those Tillets Byron...?Beedub wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:29 pm i really love the way the stock seats look and the leather quality was nice imo..... thats where it ends, zero support and WAYYYY heavier than i ever could have imagined.
The carbon tillet is no where near as uncomfortable as they appear ( they are properly contoured to the body) and have literally transformed this car as much as any mod ive done. The seating position is so awesome, the way your legs now just push out in front of you with the slightly reclined seat that sits you LOW into the cabin. The relationship with pedals and gear lever has never been better in this car. Th biggest plus is the way they fit the cabin, its like they were always meant for the z4. Even as slim as they are , you can really see how space limited the z4 is. Probably the best bucket ive ever sat in and the way they hold you in place is poetry, they are also extremely comfortable hard to believe but NO less than stock and in some areas more comfortable. If these are too extreme for you, id look towards the Pole position ( supremely comfortable ) but they foul the door card ( or every z4 that has come to work with them in has )
m5 is correct definitely go to a shop and try them, i went through 3 sets and lost a fortune and very nearly gave up.... i took a rather pricey gamble on the tillet B5 carbon shells. Lastly this is a costly route , expect to more than you think making this happen.
Edit ; one thing i dont about the tillet is how difficult it is to now enter and exit the car
Any excuse to post a pic of these
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Don't know about the Tilletts, but I've done thousands of miles in my Pole Position ABE seats...including some National runs and plenty of Germany trips...much less tiring than standard seats as I no longer have to support/brace my body weight on one knee or the other when I'm going through fast corners.
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The only complaint I had with Pole positions was a lack of lumbar support. This was in an old golf so may not be such an issue in the Z.
For longer drives I think some kind of adjustment would be a benefit unless you’re lucky and the seat you choose turns out to be a tailor made fit. When I drive back to the uk I really appreciate being able to move the seat around to vary the angle and support on my back. I’ve done the same journey in the pole positions and whilst it was ok, I ended up stuffing a small cushion by my lower back after a few hours. All very personal though so as mentioned, try and sit in some and see what you think.
One option might be the recaro CS, every single one I’ve tried in whatever car has been excellent.
For longer drives I think some kind of adjustment would be a benefit unless you’re lucky and the seat you choose turns out to be a tailor made fit. When I drive back to the uk I really appreciate being able to move the seat around to vary the angle and support on my back. I’ve done the same journey in the pole positions and whilst it was ok, I ended up stuffing a small cushion by my lower back after a few hours. All very personal though so as mentioned, try and sit in some and see what you think.
One option might be the recaro CS, every single one I’ve tried in whatever car has been excellent.
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Mine is set up perfectly for me, but you can buy manual/electric inflatable lumbar pads and cushionsbeanie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:58 am The only complaint I had with Pole positions was a lack of lumbar support. This was in an old golf so may not be such an issue in the Z.
For longer drives I think some kind of adjustment would be a benefit unless you’re lucky and the seat you choose turns out to be a tailor made fit. When I drive back to the uk I really appreciate being able to move the seat around to vary the angle and support on my back. I’ve done the same journey in the pole positions and whilst it was ok, I ended up stuffing a small cushion by my lower back after a few hours. All very personal though so as mentioned, try and sit in some and see what you think.
One option might be the recaro CS, every single one I’ve tried in whatever car has been excellent.
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If and when I ever get it back on the road, a couple of those would be ideal
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Everyone's different If you love them, that's great! I really do wish I could say the sameMr Tidy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:54 pm I must be strange as I really like the M-Sport seats.
Although the Nappa leather in my M is much nicer than the Oregon leather my previous cars had.
I did sit in a carbon Tillet in a Z4 once and it was more comfortable than I expected, but I'm not sure how long I'd want to spend in one!
I agree that the Nappa leather is lovely.
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