Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:10 pm
Does the Z4M have a Wideband O2 sensor fitted as standard to be able to wire an AFR gauge to?
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Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 am
It has a pair of wideband O2s fitted as stock, but you won't be able to wire a gauge in to them. You may be able to get something that reads the AFR via OBD2 though.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:26 am
i welded a boss into the S pipe after the headers. Be prepared to keep changing the sensor tho, they dont last long. I need to replace my again.
its very nice to keep an eye on AFR during WOT for long periods... a boosted s54 likes mid 11s-12 AFR ,
visible here in this very old video, ill be pulling my finger out next spring and releasing a proper video series on this car.
Roughly 2.05mins in
https://youtu.be/3UqwEp1U77s
gauge is a stack professional gauge using bosch lsu 4.9 sensor. This data logs back to a stack unit in the glove box.
this gauge was around 360gbp if i remember correctly.
its very nice to keep an eye on AFR during WOT for long periods... a boosted s54 likes mid 11s-12 AFR ,
visible here in this very old video, ill be pulling my finger out next spring and releasing a proper video series on this car.
Roughly 2.05mins in
https://youtu.be/3UqwEp1U77s
gauge is a stack professional gauge using bosch lsu 4.9 sensor. This data logs back to a stack unit in the glove box.
this gauge was around 360gbp if i remember correctly.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:21 am
Thanks both,
I’m tempted to go for the P3 vent solution, can only have one read out visible at a time though . .
It’s a shame that the 3D design ashtray pod is NLA. I’ve got a spare ashtray though so might have a go at creating something with that so I can have the 3 separate gauges.
I’m tempted to go for the P3 vent solution, can only have one read out visible at a time though . .
It’s a shame that the 3D design ashtray pod is NLA. I’ve got a spare ashtray though so might have a go at creating something with that so I can have the 3 separate gauges.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:07 am
Thermal shock is usually what kills the wideband sensors. The factory sensors won’t start heating up until the engine is actually running. An aftermarket wideband tied to an ignition-on power source will start heating up immediately when the key is turned. Moisture from a cold start contacting a hot sensor can severely shorten the life of the sensor. Additionally, check to see if the “nose” end of the sensor is angled down at least 10 deg, so that moisture drains out into the exhaust rather than pooling on the sensor.Beedub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:26 am i welded a boss into the S pipe after the headers. Be prepared to keep changing the sensor tho, they dont last long. I need to replace my again.
its very nice to keep an eye on AFR during WOT for long periods... a boosted s54 likes mid 11s-12 AFR ,
visible here in this very old video, ill be pulling my finger out next spring and releasing a proper video series on this car.
Roughly 2.05mins in
https://youtu.be/3UqwEp1U77s
gauge is a stack professional gauge using bosch lsu 4.9 sensor. This data logs back to a stack unit in the glove box.
this gauge was around 360gbp if i remember correctly.
Bosch 4.9 respond more quickly than 4.2 but seem to be less durable.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:17 am
my stack unit actually counts down 20 seconds before it starts to heat the sensor which is a nice feature, however.... ill be lucky to get a year out the sensor, at over 100GBP per time, its a fair investment.pokeybritches wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:07 amThermal shock is usually what kills the wideband sensors. The factory sensors won’t start heating up until the engine is actually running. An aftermarket wideband tied to an ignition-on power source will start heating up immediately when the key is turned. Moisture from a cold start contacting a hot sensor can severely shorten the life of the sensor. Additionally, check to see if the “nose” end of the sensor is angled down at least 10 deg, so that moisture drains out into the exhaust rather than pooling on the sensor.Beedub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:26 am i welded a boss into the S pipe after the headers. Be prepared to keep changing the sensor tho, they dont last long. I need to replace my again.
its very nice to keep an eye on AFR during WOT for long periods... a boosted s54 likes mid 11s-12 AFR ,
visible here in this very old video, ill be pulling my finger out next spring and releasing a proper video series on this car.
Roughly 2.05mins in
https://youtu.be/3UqwEp1U77s
gauge is a stack professional gauge using bosch lsu 4.9 sensor. This data logs back to a stack unit in the glove box.
this gauge was around 360gbp if i remember correctly.
Bosch 4.9 respond more quickly than 4.2 but seem to be less durable.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:15 am
- Not sure I can justify replacing a sensor every year!Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:22 pm
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:23 pm
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:10 pm
Played around with DashCommand - Looks like I can get AFR from the OBD2 - PID CALC.AFR_ACTUAL. Not sure how accurate that will be vs a dedicated sensor & gauge though.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:22 pm
You'll be fine with that! I use the stock WB when logging / tuning without issue.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:46 pm
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:54 pm
Dashcommand runs via an app on your phone etc so no need for a laptop, the data will be real time.
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:35 pm
Yeah, it’s a phone app.
I’m looking at getting an AvinUSA android screen (with torque app) to be able to display it / P3 vent gauge. Deals on both for Black Friday
I’m looking at getting an AvinUSA android screen (with torque app) to be able to display it / P3 vent gauge. Deals on both for Black Friday
Wideband O2 Sensor - AFR gauge
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:54 am
Both are nice cheap options, Byron has the proper setup which is what i would go for. 100 sterlin a year is cheap insurance. Not sure where the obd2 gets its AFR info from (its probably on the canbus, a mathematical calculation at best), but id like mine from a real time sensor.