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Post by Beedub » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:54 pm

PDJ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:46 pm Franks car and gear box in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYw1UzI ... _A&index=3
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Post by ///MBan » Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:01 am

Beedub wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:52 pm
ga41 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:13 pm
Beedub wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:02 pmive tried one on an e36 and it was so notchy and hard to shift.....

hows the UUC SSK , whas good, what bad?
Nothing special if I'm being brutally honest. I've not regretted getting it as its still an improvement but it's not a night and day difference... Throw is a bit shorter maybe 30% less but the shifter play is as stock and I really wish it was reduced but that needs an aftermarket DSSR.

Being out here it's not cost effective to just buy one and see if it fits because as reported on Zpost sometime along the line they changed our OEM DSSR shape but it's not specified in parts lists and if you get an aftermarket one it's simply chance if it fits or not...
Love this honestly..... Apparently the auto solutions kit is epic but sometimes I wonder of its buyers over gas. As the design seemed incredibly close to the stock piece. Literally metal bushing in the stock shifter would make a huge diff.
I installed an Autosolutions SSK with a small reduction in throw (around 10-15%) and it felt really good: direct, mechanical and solid. However, I had some resonance that resulted in some unpleasant sounds. Ronald from Autosolutions was super helpful, corresponding via email for months while I tried various things (changing transmission fluid with friction modifier, swapping Vibratechnics engine mounts back to new stock mounts, changing to fresh OE gearbox mounts). In the end he custom made new lower density shift arm bushings, but nothing worked. So, I uninstalled the SSK and refreshed all parts of the stock shifter. It's not as nice as the Autosolutions kit but it isn't bad (and quite a bit better than when I bought the car, even though the car only has around 30,000 km on it). If I could have the SSK without the resonant sounds, I would choose it in a heartbeat over the stock shifter.

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Post by Beedub » Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:25 am

///MBan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:01 am
Beedub wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:52 pm
ga41 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:13 pm
Nothing special if I'm being brutally honest. I've not regretted getting it as its still an improvement but it's not a night and day difference... Throw is a bit shorter maybe 30% less but the shifter play is as stock and I really wish it was reduced but that needs an aftermarket DSSR.

Being out here it's not cost effective to just buy one and see if it fits because as reported on Zpost sometime along the line they changed our OEM DSSR shape but it's not specified in parts lists and if you get an aftermarket one it's simply chance if it fits or not...
Love this honestly..... Apparently the auto solutions kit is epic but sometimes I wonder of its buyers over gas. As the design seemed incredibly close to the stock piece. Literally metal bushing in the stock shifter would make a huge diff.
I installed an Autosolutions SSK with a small reduction in throw (around 10-15%) and it felt really good: direct, mechanical and solid. However, I had some resonance that resulted in some unpleasant sounds. Ronald from Autosolutions was super helpful, corresponding via email for months while I tried various things (changing transmission fluid with friction modifier, swapping Vibratechnics engine mounts back to new stock mounts, changing to fresh OE gearbox mounts). In the end he custom made new lower density shift arm bushings, but nothing worked. So, I uninstalled the SSK and refreshed all parts of the stock shifter. It's not as nice as the Autosolutions kit but it isn't bad (and quite a bit better than when I bought the car, even though the car only has around 30,000 km on it). If I could have the SSK without the resonant sounds, I would choose it in a heartbeat over the stock shifter.
So many heart breaker posts in this thread ..... 🀣🀣 Once again really appreciate the honesty.... Wonder how many others are having this but again not reporting the real side effects .

If you don't mind , how u pleasant were the sounds ?? What exactly was you hearing ??
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Post by maupineda » Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:40 am

^^^ i have ASSK and it does vibrate at high rpm, but I don’t find it too disturbing. I prefer a nice shifter action, but my car is already louder with stiffer suspension, remus exhaust and CSL airbox

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Post by Beedub » Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:06 am

maupineda wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:40 am ^^^ i have ASSK and it does vibrate at high rpm, but I don’t find it too disturbing. I prefer a nice shifter action, but my car is already louder with stiffer suspension, remus exhaust and CSL airbox
oh mannnnn....... crazy how many don't report this .

how bad is it ? not sure i can accept that from a SSK :cry: :cry:
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Post by Vanne » Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:44 pm

stand alone ecu is easily do-able, and would be the cheaper part of this gig. Sequential would be amazing in this car, but as youve no doubt found out, the costs sky rocket! Would love to see you do this :) *BUT* am way more glad to read the zero spread part man, you had me worried there for a while. :thumbsup:
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Post by ///MBan » Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:45 pm

I made a thread about the noises on zpost:

https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1678084

For some, the noises may be tolerable but they were too much for me. Really detracted from the fun of driving the car. If you have other noises as well (poly bushings, race-type camber plates, etc) maybe it would become just one of many mechanical noises? I have a private video on Youtube of it (used it to share with Ronald at AS), so I could send you the link, noting that this was with a lapel mic attached the shifter boot, so it sounds worse than in RL, but does illustrate the nature of the noises.

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Post by TomK » Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:22 am

///MBan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:01 amIf I could have the SSK without the resonant sounds, I would choose it in a heartbeat over the stock shifter.
I've had the UUC SSk for 5 years or so installed, no additional noise and a definite improvement from stock imo. I have no desire to go to a cae type which in my brief experience reduces the feel somehow of the manual change.
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Post by Beedub » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:38 am

TomK wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:22 am
///MBan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:01 amIf I could have the SSK without the resonant sounds, I would choose it in a heartbeat over the stock shifter.
I've had the UUC SSk for 5 years or so installed, no additional noise and a definite improvement from stock imo. I have no desire to go to a cae type which in my brief experience reduces the feel somehow of the manual change.
the CAE type shifters do NOT feel great, very bling and look good, but the change imo is horrendous... when cold i couldnt a 2-3 at all.....
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Post by Vanne » Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:50 am

You need solid mounts and a proper DSSR for the ultra shifter to do it’s job properly. :thumbsup:
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Post by maupineda » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:09 am

Beedub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:06 am
maupineda wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:40 am ^^^ i have ASSK and it does vibrate at high rpm, but I don’t find it too disturbing. I prefer a nice shifter action, but my car is already louder with stiffer suspension, remus exhaust and CSL airbox
oh mannnnn....... crazy how many don't report this .

how bad is it ? not sure i can accept that from a SSK :cry: :cry:
Not too bad to be honest, happens at about 5.5 - 6k rpms and during deceleration, is a vibration noise from the shifter, if you hold it, it quites it. Just not what you expect of a premium car, but again, the Z4M is not the most quite anyway.

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Vanne wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:44 pm stand alone ecu is easily do-able, and would be the cheaper part of this gig. Sequential would be amazing in this car, but as youve no doubt found out, the costs sky rocket! Would love to see you do this :) *BUT* am way more glad to read the zero spread part man, you had me worried there for a while. :thumbsup:
yeah the GB was 10k...... and unfortunately the tuning with the s/C setup is just a pain in the ass ....... i adore this car, owned it for many years but the performance has put in a place where i cant afford to better it ( yet) but i feel like my times running out to enjoy some of the othe things wan to try, but very very connected to this car. Agreed on the cancer, ive got 1 more chemo left . Already booked 3 trackdays with the Zed for next year. not messing around, time to live my life abit. if / when i sell this car i feel it could be the one i deeply regret. Will PM you shortly BTW, just getting over the lastest chemo session. Please excuse my typos guys.
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Post by RedUn » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:26 pm

Beedub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:54 pm
Vanne wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:44 pm stand alone ecu is easily do-able, and would be the cheaper part of this gig. Sequential would be amazing in this car, but as youve no doubt found out, the costs sky rocket! Would love to see you do this :) *BUT* am way more glad to read the zero spread part man, you had me worried there for a while. :thumbsup:
yeah the GB was 10k...... and unfortunately the tuning with the s/C setup is just a pain in the ass ....... i adore this car, owned it for many years but the performance has put in a place where i cant afford to better it ( yet) but i feel like my times running out to enjoy some of the othe things wan to try, but very very connected to this car. Agreed on the cancer, ive got 1 more chemo left . Already booked 3 trackdays with the Zed for next year. not messing around, time to live my life abit. if / when i sell this car i feel it could be the one i deeply regret. Will PM you shortly BTW, just getting over the lastest chemo session. Please excuse my typos guys.
Be careful not to plan on selling too quick, you might find something faster or newer or more accomplished but it won't be as raw / engaging... I made that mistake once years ago and sold the car I'd spent years of graft and a lot of money on to buy something more accomplished/acclaimed call it what you like and you know what, I had it less than 12 months...
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Post by Beedub » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:44 pm

RedUn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:26 pm
Beedub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:54 pm
Vanne wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:44 pm stand alone ecu is easily do-able, and would be the cheaper part of this gig. Sequential would be amazing in this car, but as youve no doubt found out, the costs sky rocket! Would love to see you do this :) *BUT* am way more glad to read the zero spread part man, you had me worried there for a while. :thumbsup:
yeah the GB was 10k...... and unfortunately the tuning with the s/C setup is just a pain in the ass ....... i adore this car, owned it for many years but the performance has put in a place where i cant afford to better it ( yet) but i feel like my times running out to enjoy some of the othe things wan to try, but very very connected to this car. Agreed on the cancer, ive got 1 more chemo left . Already booked 3 trackdays with the Zed for next year. not messing around, time to live my life abit. if / when i sell this car i feel it could be the one i deeply regret. Will PM you shortly BTW, just getting over the lastest chemo session. Please excuse my typos guys.
Be careful not to plan on selling too quick, you might find something faster or newer or more accomplished but it won't be as raw / engaging... I made that mistake once years ago and sold the car I'd spent years of graft and a lot of money on to buy something more accomplished/acclaimed call it what you like and you know what, I had it less than 12 months...
totally agree which is why its still around after all these years...... more than likely it will stay and stored at work and ill get another play thing that's completely different....
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Post by RedUn » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:33 pm

Beedub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:44 pm
RedUn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:26 pm
Beedub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:54 pm yeah the GB was 10k...... and unfortunately the tuning with the s/C setup is just a pain in the ass ....... i adore this car, owned it for many years but the performance has put in a place where i cant afford to better it ( yet) but i feel like my times running out to enjoy some of the othe things wan to try, but very very connected to this car. Agreed on the cancer, ive got 1 more chemo left . Already booked 3 trackdays with the Zed for next year. not messing around, time to live my life abit. if / when i sell this car i feel it could be the one i deeply regret. Will PM you shortly BTW, just getting over the lastest chemo session. Please excuse my typos guys.
Be careful not to plan on selling too quick, you might find something faster or newer or more accomplished but it won't be as raw / engaging... I made that mistake once years ago and sold the car I'd spent years of graft and a lot of money on to buy something more accomplished/acclaimed call it what you like and you know what, I had it less than 12 months...
totally agree which is why its still around after all these years...... more than likely it will stay and stored at work and ill get another play thing that's completely different....
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