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Post by ronk » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:41 pm

I have my 35is insured thro a policy with Chris Knott

Will my car remain fully insured while it’s sorned and tucked away in my garage over winter?
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Post by Smartbear » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:52 pm

ronk wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:41 pm I have my 35is insured thro a policy with Chris Knott

Will my car remain fully insured while it’s sorned and tucked away in my garage over winter?
I’d check with the insurer directly if you’re unsure Ron, can’t be any grey areas then :thumbsup:
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Post by ronk » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:56 pm

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Post by craig3.2 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:33 pm

Yes, better worth checking, Ron
Some companies definitely don't cover you if you SORN your car, oddly. It's not getting used so less likely to be in an accident,yet some don't cover you for it to sit untaxed in their eyes, although it's officially sorn'd.
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Post by Nanu » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:42 pm

If it's locked away in your garage and NOT covered by any other insurance, worth checking with your house contents insurance, especially if you have an all risks type policy.
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Post by SV8Predator » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:05 pm

It will be perfectly fine (insurance-wise) while it is SORNed.

I'm sure the Chris Knott people will respond soon to confirm.
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Post by Scubaregs » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:58 pm

SV8Predator wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:05 pm It will be perfectly fine (insurance-wise) while it is SORNed.

I'm sure the Chris Knott people will respond soon to confirm.
That's the whole point, why I brought it up on the other thread, with some insurance companies it won't be perfectly fine when sorned, your insurance will become invalid.
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Post by ronk » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:04 pm

Scubaregs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:58 pm
SV8Predator wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:05 pm It will be perfectly fine (insurance-wise) while it is SORNed.

I'm sure the Chris Knott people will respond soon to confirm.
That's the whole point, why I brought it up on the other thread, with some insurance companies it won't be perfectly fine when sorned, your insurance will become invalid.
Is that because it would not be road legal by virtue of the fact it has no ved?
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Post by Scubaregs » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:09 pm

ronk, Tbh I have no idea, came as a complete shock to me when I found out. I used to SORN bikes all the time and it never occurred to me it could have insurance implications.

Someone brought it up on another forum I'm on, their insurers informed them the policy would be invalid if the car was sorned.
Always worth checking with your insurer if unsure, before sorning the car.
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Post by Mr Tidy » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:15 pm

I'd definitely check with Chris Knott just to be sure.

Im my 30+ years working in the UK General Insurance industry I never saw a Household policy that didn't exclude motor vehicles.
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Post by craig3.2 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:21 pm

Scubaregs wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:09 pm ronk, Tbh I have no idea, came as a complete shock to me when I found out. I used to SORN bikes all the time and it never occurred to me it could have insurance implications.

Someone brought it up on another forum I'm on, their insurers informed them the policy would be invalid if the car was sorned.
Always worth checking with your insurer if unsure, before sorning the car.
Yeah,I was surprised too when I found out,Craig. Hence why I had to change Insurance company two years ago!
Seems odd,as car used less,or not at all,being sorn'd,so why they don't baffles me tbh.
Must be to do with the tax issue as Ron suggested
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Post by Scubaregs » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:09 am

Catch a lot of people out I would think.
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Post by pvr » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:34 am

Would love to understand how they stand legally about that, i.e. what is the tax status got to do with the insurance risk.

I drove the Golf to it's annual MOT, there was no tax on it as you cannot tax it whilst not having MOT.
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Post by Scubaregs » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:48 am

It will simply be in their T&C's that they do not insure cars whilst sorned.
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Post by pvr » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:16 pm

Scubaregs wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:48 am It will simply be in their T&C's that they do not insure cars whilst sorned.
Not picking on you here, but how can you drive a SORNED car for an MOT without insurance? Was just reading the Admiral policy and it is very dubious - you can't insure an untaxed car, but if you don't insure it and it is SORNED it won't be covered for theft.

This is the wording which seems to imply you are insured (source:Admiral):
admiral wrote: Benefits of SORN – does a SORN car need insurance?

If you SORN your car you don't have to insure your vehicle, pay road tax (another term for Vehicle Excise Duty or VED) or have a valid MOT – potentially saving you hundreds of pounds.

Additionally, if you SORN your vehicle you’ll be refunded any full months of unused tax you’ve already paid for.

It may also be possible to reduce your (comprehensive) car insurance cover to Third Party, Fire & Theft, or you might be able to get a refund on part of your motor insurance if you suspend the policy.
This is what it says above that:
admiral wrote:
Can you insure a car without tax?

No, you can’t insure a car without tax. But the only time your car is allowed to be uninsured is when it’s declared SORN – otherwise, it's a criminal offence for your car to have no insurance.
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