A different roof problem

[enuff_zed]

Morning all,

Been at least 5 minutes since someone posted a roof issue so here's mine.
Got me stumped!

Occasionally when I press the roof down button on my 2.2i I get nothing at all. No unlock, no red light, no window drop, no noises from anywhere.
This only happens when the engine is running, and when I am parked up.
If I turn the engine off everything works perfectly every time.
It also works every time by the key in the lock and hold method.

So to me this points to the car thinking it is moving too fast (even though it is stationary)
Anyone ever come across this before?

[Smartbear]

Morning all,

Been at least 5 minutes since someone posted a roof issue so here's mine.
Got me stumped!

Occasionally when I press the roof down button on my 2.2i I get nothing at all. No unlock, no red light, no window drop, no noises from anywhere.
This only happens when the engine is running, and when I am parked up.
If I turn the engine off everything works perfectly every time.
It also works every time by the key in the lock and hold method.

So to me this points to the car thinking it is moving too fast (even though it is stationary)
Anyone ever come across this before?

Either that or the roof control has been turned off by terminal 30
Rob

[bigwinn]

Whats terminal 30 Rob? Sorry to hijack just interested...

And I couldn't resist: https://youtu.be/Kw-Fl_xGpyY

[enuff_zed]

Morning all,

Been at least 5 minutes since someone posted a roof issue so here's mine.
Got me stumped!

Occasionally when I press the roof down button on my 2.2i I get nothing at all. No unlock, no red light, no window drop, no noises from anywhere.
This only happens when the engine is running, and when I am parked up.
If I turn the engine off everything works perfectly every time.
It also works every time by the key in the lock and hold method.

So to me this points to the car thinking it is moving too fast (even though it is stationary)
Anyone ever come across this before?

Either that or the roof control has been turned off by terminal 30
Rob

It works fine 90% of the time though?

[Smartbear]

Whats terminal 30 Rob? Sorry to hijack just interested...

And I couldn't resist: https://youtu.be/Kw-Fl_xGpyY

It’s a relay on the fuse panel which turns off different circuits individually as the car slowly goes to sleep, it’s been know to cause problems.
Rob

[bigwinn]

Whats terminal 30 Rob? Sorry to hijack just interested...

And I couldn't resist: https://youtu.be/Kw-Fl_xGpyY

It’s a relay on the fuse panel which turns off different circuits individually as the car slowly goes to sleep, it’s been know to cause problems.
Rob

related to gm5?

every day is a school day eh

[Smartbear]

Whats terminal 30 Rob? Sorry to hijack just interested...

And I couldn't resist: https://youtu.be/Kw-Fl_xGpyY

This one

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Rob

[Smartbear]

Morning all,

Been at least 5 minutes since someone posted a roof issue so here's mine.
Got me stumped!

Occasionally when I press the roof down button on my 2.2i I get nothing at all. No unlock, no red light, no window drop, no noises from anywhere.
This only happens when the engine is running, and when I am parked up.
If I turn the engine off everything works perfectly every time.
It also works every time by the key in the lock and hold method.

So to me this points to the car thinking it is moving too fast (even though it is stationary)
Anyone ever come across this before?

Either that or the roof control has been turned off by terminal 30
Rob

It works fine 90% of the time though?

It’s a latch relay with more than one pick up coil, it can get hr contacts

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Rob

[enuff_zed]

Rob, is really as simple as it looks?
(Like me )

[Smartbear]

Rob, is really as simple as it looks?
(Like me )

It’s best if you disconnect the battery first before changing the terminal 30 relay as not doing so can isolate some circuits (like the vanos for instance) due to the nature of the latching relay.
Don’t ask me how i know this
Rob

[enuff_zed]

Rob, is really as simple as it looks?
(Like me )

It’s best if you disconnect the battery first before changing the terminal 30 relay as not doing so can isolate some circuits (like the vanos for instance) due to the nature of the latching relay.
Don’t ask me how i know this
Rob

Thanks Rob,
Think I'll be giving that a go then.

Is that the back of the fuse box? Do you need to lower it to get at it?

[enuff_zed]

Smartbear, you are aware this issue is my E85?
Just wondering as I can only find reference to this on Realoem being on an E89?

Edit: Scratch that! Just looked at the wiring diagram you posted again. Sorry.

[Number5]

Smartbear, you are aware this issue is my E85?

I agree. It doesnt look like an E85 Fusebox

[Smartbear]

Smartbear, you are aware this issue is my E85?
Just wondering as I can only find reference to this on Realoem being on an E89?

Edit: Scratch that! Just looked at the wiring diagram you posted again. Sorry.

The pic’s my e89 fuse bay but i believe the e85 has a similar set up with this relay
Rob

[enuff_zed]

Smartbear, you are aware this issue is my E85?

I agree. It doesnt look like an E85 Fusebox

Would you happen to know where it sits on an E85 fusebox then please?