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Difference Between the z4 35i and 35is

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Difference Between the z4 35i and 35is

Post by Argyll Andy » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:54 am

Z4MAD wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:38 am
Why not acquire an S Drive badge
The S Drive badge is on every E89, not specific to the 35iS

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    G29 M40i Misano Blue all option packs (Gone 26k of fun)
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    E89 23i sDrive, Silver (Gone)

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    Post by Argyll Andy » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:56 am

    Pondrew wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:33 am
    Argyll Andy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:29 am Pot and kettle………
    I have an 18i and the only difference between that and a 35is is.......17 :D
    Bu99er all to do with your Zed :poke: starting at top model ending up down the range……….. eventually :rofl: :rofl:

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      Post by Pondrew » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:21 am

      Argyll Andy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:56 am Bu99er all to do with your Zed starting at top model ending up down the range……….. eventually
      I do hope you are not referring to my new yacht :D
      All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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      Post by ori » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:27 am

      Loved this thread. Made me chuckle.

      35is all the way. Anyone who goes for the 35i is a cheap Scott who should be banned from this forum. 😂😂😂😂

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      Post by Z4MAD » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:36 am

      Dear Comrades,

      I am advised by Comrade Argyll Andy, that the whole range of E89s are S-Drive which apparently is code for 2 wheel drive. What poppycock and piffle; this is tantamount to the placement upon the bodywork of 'Hydra-Vision' in shiny chrome badges - when all it refers to is the windscreen wipers.

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      Post by pvr » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:40 am

      ori wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:27 am Loved this thread. Made me chuckle.

      35is all the way. Anyone who goes for the 35i is a cheap Scott who should be banned from this forum. 😂😂😂😂
      Unless they are manual drivers, which makes them driving heroes :D
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      Post by Pondrew » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:42 am

      Totally agree MAD.
      Makes me laugh when newbies come on saying "I have a 35i S-drive, or 20i S-drive". You would have because they all are. :D
      All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

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      Post by Argyll Andy » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:52 am

      Pondrew wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:21 am
      Argyll Andy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:56 am Bu99er all to do with your Zed starting at top model ending up down the range……….. eventually
      I do hope you are not referring to my new yacht :D
      No , not specifically it, any bl00dy car you post about as a possible purchase :poke: surely you can’t have forgotten your V8 Focus already? :oops:

      Do like the new yacht btw, colour combo is lovely. I hope you all enjoy many happy miles in it :thumbsup:

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        G29 M40i Misano Blue all option packs (Gone 26k of fun)
        E89 35iS, Valencia Orange, Design Pure Traction pack (Gone)
        E89 23i sDrive, Silver (Gone)

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        Post by ori » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:00 pm

        pvr wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:40 am
        ori wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:27 am Loved this thread. Made me chuckle.

        35is all the way. Anyone who goes for the 35i is a cheap Scott who should be banned from this forum. 😂😂😂😂
        Unless they are manual drivers, which makes them driving heroes :D
        Makes them “feel” like driving heroes.

        Btw. I’m a huge manual fan, but living in London I’ve realised life is better with a good auto. ;)

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        Post by Pondrew » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:40 pm

        Argyll Andy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:52 am Do like the new yacht btw, colour combo is lovely. I hope you all enjoy many happy miles in it
        Thanks matey. Not looking good for going anywhere in it ATM though. :(
        All good things come to those who wait. I'm really impatient which explains a lot.

        F31 320i. Good car.
        E89 20i Now fully dried
        Z3 'free litre'. Project and a half. Complicated!
        Mazda3 sold
        Tatty old R56 Mini Cooper. Money pit!

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        Post by tiglon » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:03 pm

        Silverstar wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:32 am
        tiglon wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:34 pm Sorry, but I still don't see any evidence of this 35is premium on the used market. There is a newer car premium, and a lower mileage premium, but I'm pretty sure that's fairly normal for a used car....

        The insinuation that anyone with a 35is paid extra because they fell for some marketing bollocks is simply not true, and yes the regular comments about it do occasionally get slightly irritating and on this occasion I decided to respond.

        I know you guys with the 35i/20i and remaps like that you've been clever by buying the detuned version and modifying it, and I would agree with you, it's a smart choice. But that doesn't mean you need to criticise anyone who made a different choice for different reasons. You don't need me to be an idiot for you to be clever.

        By the way, talking of brakes, doesn't the 35is also have bigger brakes than the 35i?
        Sorry but I have to agree with the.analyst's comment. You are paying a premium for the 35is over the 35i for not that much more of a difference. If you look on Auotrader right now, do a comparison between the two models for the model year 2014 you will find the 35i is around £20k and the 35is around £25k for both models roughly the same mileage. If you check for the 2015 year model there is only one example of each 35i and 35is both cars at around £27k so no difference there but since there is just one of each it's difficult to give an accurate comparison as the chap selling the 35i may well have overpriced his car and vice versa with the chap selling the 35is but if you then compare for the model year 2016 you will see the 35i going for £25k and the 35is £27k so you are getting a 35i a year newer than a 2015 35is and for 2k less. Not saying one shouldn't pay a premium for the 35is that is entirely their choice but the fact remains for the price gap there isn't really much init.
        You're not mentioning mileage or the lack of DCT and/or adaptive suspension on every single one of those 35i's for sale (unless they have adaptive suspension but it hasn't been listed).

        The argument was that you could buy a 35i with all the same spec as a 35is, apart from the ECU map, exhaust and marketing stuff, for much less than the 35is. Firstly, find me a 35i that has actually been specced that well (good luck). Secondly, find one that's been specced that well, and is so much cheaper than a 35is of comparable mileage, age and condition that you have enough spare cash to get it remapped and the exhaust modified.
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        You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
        So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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        Post by ronk » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:46 pm

        The one that got away!
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        You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
        So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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        Post by ronk » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:56 pm

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        You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
        So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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        Post by Ed.Straker » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:07 pm

        Z4MAD wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:46 am Dear Comrade Chippie,

        Will you, please, kindly use the correct terminology e.g. the word you should be utilising to express the opinion you have stated is 'Micturate'.

        I would, therefore, confirm that I am not, as you have alluded, 'taking the micturation' with this thread or any post that I have placed upon it. Indeed, if there is any micturation being promulgated it appears to me from the revelations on this thread, that it may well be BMW. For example, I have never, in my whole life, heard a two wheel drive vehicle referred to as 'S Drive' and therefrom emblazoning 'S Drive' on both sides of the vehicle leading observers to believe this was something really special. Should this be a fact, it just goes to prove (to me) along with some other examples promulgated on this thread exemplifying the minuscule differences betwixt the 35i and 35is, and how those employed in marketing can create illusions within the minds of purchasers that is wholly at disparity with the reality. It beggars belief that 'S Drive' merely refers to two wheel drive,... is this really the case, surely not: I await the responses of fellow comrades with great interest.

        All the aforegoing notwithstanding, I greatly appreciate the responses you have made within the thread, and certainly I was most interested in your clearly detailed explanation of the 'Overboost' facility,... however, I am not at all sure about the 'Launch Control' facility as this would appear to me that it would hold the likelihood of causing extreme load and wear upon the tyres, it would also surely create unnecessary loads within the complete drive train of the machine, and therefrom cause unnecessary wear and tear. Quite frankly, it would seem tantamount to abuse of the machine to use such a facility.

        Does both the 35i and the 35is have this ridiculous facility of Launch Control?

        With kind regards,

        MAD
        When I looked at all the options as far as I could read launch control is a function of the engine and DCT box which can be fitted to the 35i as well as the only option on a 35is. As you said the use of launch control runs contrary to any concept of mechanical empathy!

        Clearly aimed at gauche Americans!

        One of our learned colleagues pointed out that the 35i and 35is intercooler is undersized for the task in hand and hence the 7 second boost limit squares the marketing circle of good news whilst getting the engineers of the hook from a meltdown caused by insufficient charge cooling.

        If you look at the intercooler on a 18i Z4 its better designed and better flow than a 35i(s) one!

        Hence the market in after market 35i intercoolers.

        So again once you move from the original spec ad assuming the options with a specific car float your boat, and you are into modding / upgrading your car then you might as well save your money, widen your choice and include 35i.

        The same story applies to 18i 20i and 28i where there are many more 20i to choose from than 28i and you save yourself some ponies.

        Although I gather you have prodigious reserves?
        White 35i MSport MHD re-map…still in one piece

        Atacama Yellow 20i MSport Auto. Remapped, more to be done…written off

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