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Post by AnubisZed » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:21 am

Christopher72 wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:46 am Appreciate the response! Ol right then. I've put in an order for the retrofit kit, front retrofit wires, and front brackets from a German e-tailer and well see what that looks like. I'm curious to how the looms get plugged and routed -- It lists included instructions. The used PDC controllers seem easy to find ~£80, but the switch unit is a proper bastard in pricing, even used.

As for sensors, the Chinese replicas are less than £10 each... while the used Bosch are 3x or more. New is horrible. Are they worth the cost?
The retrofit kit includes the wiring from the module to the front. There is a plug coupler at the front bumper for disconnection if required, and the wiring to connect power and canbus. Yes it "should" be supplied with the instructions, but if this isn't there then give me a shout and I can supply you with it :thumbsup:
All the info i show in the video is how it should be anyway, just with my alternate options.

As it turns out, yes its worth having the OE sensors, like i say i had issues with the cheap copies and no issues since changing them.
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Post by Christopher72 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:05 pm

Thanks Dave, I appreciate your support. While I would shy away from video, I'll take a few pictures of my experience when it stops freezing here and I get the bumpers off to share. If I have a few extra parts, I'll let any of the USA members know they are avail at a reasonable discount - not worth cost of shipping back to Germany.
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Post by Christopher72 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:12 am

Dave,

When you painted your sensors, did you hit it with a primer, color, and 1K clear or did you pick up pre-painted?
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Post by AnubisZed » Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:22 am

Christopher72 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:12 am Dave,

When you painted your sensors, did you hit it with a primer, color, and 1K clear or did you pick up pre-painted?
As I bought used sensors all I did was give them a clean, then a light sand (and I mean LIGHT!!) then gave them a couple of light coats of body colour with a rattle can. Left it at that and they are perfectly fine :thumbsup:
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Post by Christopher72 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:23 pm

Thanks.. I don't have a step bit for the holes and I see pdc hole punches are a good option. Is 18mm or 18.2mm the correct OEM hole size when choosing a punch?
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Post by AnubisZed » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:39 pm

Christopher72 wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:23 pm Thanks.. I don't have a step bit for the holes and I see pdc hole punches are a good option. Is 18mm or 18.2mm the correct OEM hole size when choosing a punch?
18mm is what i used, but it is a snug fit, so the 18.2mm would probably be better :thumbsup:
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Post by Christopher72 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:27 am

I’m trying to source this part for my PDC retrofit.

61-31-9-146-645 Switch Unit Center Console 613010 Z4. With parking aid. With park distance control, with heated seats

I’ve ordered several times to just have the order cancelled.. Sourcing this seems to be problematic. Any help is appreciated (new or used)
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Post by AnubisZed » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:40 am

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Post by Christopher72 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:41 pm

I've tried them, and several others - the most helpful parts department response so far is:

"This particular part number is on intergalactic backorder with an unknown fulfillment date at this time. There's a long waitlist for this part which means you could order this part and sit on backorder until our distribution center has this part in stock again. It could very well be a possibility you would be waiting on backorder until June. These parts are manufactured OE and brand new. We do not have any options to order remanufactured parts at this time. "


Is there a possibility of enabling PDC without an on/off switch programmatically?
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Post by AnubisZed » Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:22 pm

Christopher72 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:41 pm I've tried them, and several others - the most helpful parts department response so far is:

"This particular part number is on intergalactic backorder with an unknown fulfillment date at this time. There's a long waitlist for this part which means you could order this part and sit on backorder until our distribution center has this part in stock again. It could very well be a possibility you would be waiting on backorder until June. These parts are manufactured OE and brand new. We do not have any options to order remanufactured parts at this time. "


Is there a possibility of enabling PDC without an on/off switch programmatically?
OK so I've done some searching for you and it's looking like you won't get a brand new one, unless it's new old stock.
And the usual places don't have any of that particular version available (eBay etc).
So you either keep looking for a used one to come up or you go contacting breakers to see if they have one available. Now if you find a used one but it has scratched buttons, well they can be replaced, well at least the PDC and roof buttons can be, but nobody currently does the replacements for the heated seat button covers. As for replacing these button covers, firstly they are available on eBay and Aliexpress etc and are fairly decent quality (I've bought and fitted some of these in the past and then sold them on) and secondly I just happen to have a video on how to replace them :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7-l_adTlk

Unfortunately it's going to be a waiting game, best of luck :thumbsup:
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Post by matsmith749 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:34 pm

Without the button, they will still come on & activate if you select reverse.

You only use the button to switch on manually if approaching a tight spot nose first.
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Post by Christopher72 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:40 pm

matsmith749 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:34 pm Without the button, they will still come on & activate if you select reverse.

You only use the button to switch on manually if approaching a tight spot nose first.
Excellent Mat, thanks for the clarification on that. If I'm on forever intergalactic backorder, I can at the least use some of the sensors.
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Post by matsmith749 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:13 pm

To be clear - everything activates if you select reverse (front & rear).

What I haven't tried, is activating reverse (so they all turn on), then flipping back to drive..... you may be able to manage it fully without a switch at all!

I'm pretty sure when I reverse off the drive that the sensor screen is still pinging away until I hit >15 mph or so, after I'm driving down the road (forwards).

Just tried it - it does exactly as I said - you could cope with no button. Just select reverse to switch on, and they auto off once you hit above about 15mph.
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Post by Christopher72 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:53 pm

Thanks for the real-life testing of the theory. I did get a few responses today that the only stock of part 645 in the world was at BMW/Mini of Wesley Chapel, Florida. I was able to secure it with a reasonable price and applaud the end of that hunt and thank you for the emotional support. :cheers:

Anyone else seeking that part in 2023 will have to get on a multiple month backorder, but at least with Mat's testing will be functional until they do. As of today, Germany is showing to get 48 units on March 5th, but there is a 64 unit global backorder.... YMMV. :paper:
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Post by Marcoose » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:33 am

Chris, it’d be sweet to have a part list and how-to. Not for me, I don’t trust my hands with this level of work, but to share with professional installers. I may take the car to a local shop for the PDC and rear camera upgrades. Thanks.
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