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Post by marioz4 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:38 pm

***UPDATE: Changed all springs + shocks with standard Sachs suspension, now car sit 10mm higher than with my M suspension, ride is much better even if i have 19" and run flat. M active suspension + 19' + run flat is simply to hard ride, now happy with my "new car" standard suspension



Well, recently bought 35i with 53.000 miles and week after when i took wheels off i realized why the ride is not as good as it should be, both front shook leaking big time.. so i decided to change all 4 of them with normal ones, this fronts one are prone to failing and with price tag of £500+ each just for the part...

So car is going to independent professional garage on Monday, changing all 4 + front springs + alignment etc , all for £1400. as i understand M active suspension only work in sport mode...i dont think i will miss a lot active suspension as i had Z4 before without and its was just fine.

Cost of replacing adaptive shock is not justified with marginal benefit and poor readability.

Have anyone chnage theirs or have maybe different view on this, would love to hear from you!
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Post by Silverstar » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:55 pm

This might be of interest to you:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274008540015 ... 4008540015

New B¡lstein B12, the chaps been trying to sell it for a while, I have seen it resisted 3 times now. Each time only gets one or two bids around 160 GBP. Might be worthwhile sending a message to the seller if you fancy upgrading the handling.
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Post by keving1 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:15 pm

OP if you change the adaptive suspension for non-adaptive then you will have a suspension warning on your dash permanently (large shocks warning sign where the time & temperature is).

You can cancel this by following the How-To at the following link and coding it out
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=101129

Or you can buy a kit that plugs into each of the 4 connectors, this is not cheap and doesn't always work. The kit you have bought may have this already.

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Post by Cees Klumper » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:38 pm

Unless this car was driven off-road a lot, then for the shocks to terminate with only so few miles is pretty disappointing. Sounds like the swap to conventional is the best option. Glad my own car does not have adaptive suspension. Good luck with the install, and hope you can avoid the permanent warning light, that would annoy me to no end.
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Post by keving1 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm

Cees Klumper wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:38 pm Unless this car was driven off-road a lot, then for the shocks to terminate with only so few miles is pretty disappointing.
Normal shocks only last 60k miles :(

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Post by tintoverano » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:10 pm

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Post by marioz4 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:26 pm

Thank you all for very useful info, i had a look on Bilstain website and they have several options, full Bilstein B12 - Pro-Kit Suspension Kit 46-181268 - but i am unsure if this kit actually lowers the car, something i am not keen doing or there are other ones; Bilstein B6 - Sport Damper 35-170631.

Tmrw morning i need to speak with the garage to find out what made of dampers they included in their quote.

Yes warning ling will go on, thank you very much for post how to switch it off, i will pass this on to the garage. I am so keen to sort this out, i drove the car today and it felt more like a boat, jumping over the bumps and not being stable at all...

Thanks guys will keep you posted!

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Post by Silverstar » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:12 pm

marioz4 wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:26 pm Thank you all for very useful info, i had a look on Bilstain website and they have several options, full Bilstein B12 - Pro-Kit Suspension Kit 46-181268 - but i am unsure if this kit actually lowers the car, something i am not keen doing or there are other ones; Bilstein B6 - Sport Damper 35-170631.

Tmrw morning i need to speak with the garage to find out what made of dampers they included in their quote.

Yes warning ling will go on, thank you very much for post how to switch it off, i will pass this on to the garage. I am so keen to sort this out, i drove the car today and it felt more like a boat, jumping over the bumps and not being stable at all...

Thanks guys will keep you posted!
The B12 Pro Kit includes Eibach lowering springs so yes it will lower the car somewhat.
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Post by Cees Klumper » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:02 pm

keving1 wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm
Cees Klumper wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:38 pm Unless this car was driven off-road a lot, then for the shocks to terminate with only so few miles is pretty disappointing.
Normal shocks only last 60k miles :(
Wow. I replaced the original shocks in my Volvo C70 after double that, and it wasn't even necessary. Pretty sure the shocks on my 95K miles 35i are still the original ones and they are still in super shape.
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Post by keving1 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:25 pm

Cees Klumper wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:02 pm
keving1 wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm
Cees Klumper wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:38 pm Unless this car was driven off-road a lot, then for the shocks to terminate with only so few miles is pretty disappointing.
Normal shocks only last 60k miles :(
Wow. I replaced the original shocks in my Volvo C70 after double that, and it wasn't even necessary. Pretty sure the shocks on my 95K miles 35i are still the original ones and they are still in super shape.
How do you know that they are still in super shape?

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Post by Cees Klumper » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:19 am

Well, the car corners like it's on rails, it's surprisingly comfortable despite riding on 19 inch rims and just in general rides like a dream. Then there's the good old bounce test - all good. I validated my approach, for me at least, when after installing new factory shocks on my Volvo I really noticed no difference in ride characteristics. To each their own of course, if you want to replace shocks as a rule after 60K miles then fine.
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Post by keving1 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:16 pm

Cees Klumper wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:19 am Well, the car corners like it's on rails, it's surprisingly comfortable despite riding on 19 inch rims and just in general rides like a dream. Then there's the good old bounce test - all good. I validated my approach, for me at least, when after installing new factory shocks on my Volvo I really noticed no difference in ride characteristics. To each their own of course, if you want to replace shocks as a rule after 60K miles then fine.
I find the bounce test on the Z4 doesn't work because the springs are so hard.

If you remove the bolt from the bottom of the rear shock you may be surprised how easy it is to push up the shock absorber and then it won't come back :o

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Post by Bodben » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:27 pm

Hi OP

Did the garage code out the warning light for you too? I have adaptive suspension, and had to get one of the front struts replaced, albeit at the cost of the garage I purchased the car from (Rose Specialist and Performance, huge shout out, Jack is a legend and absolutely stands behind the cars he sells, massive respect to him).

I feel however that one day I will have to go down this route.....

Cheers!
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Post by GDeth » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:33 pm

Any update on this?

I just found out today that my front struts are bad (leaking) and checking out the bmw adaptive m struts - about $720 each. As far as I can see, there are no non-bmw struts available. I am seriously considering going the standard strut route (although when I contacted Bilstein, they said they do not recommend it as they have not tested it and it is not supported).

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Post by enzed4 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:57 pm

GDeth wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:33 pm Any update on this?

I just found out today that my front struts are bad (leaking) and checking out the bmw adaptive m struts - about $720 each. As far as I can see, there are no non-bmw struts available. I am seriously considering going the standard strut route (although when I contacted Bilstein, they said they do not recommend it as they have not tested it and it is not supported).
See the OP's edit at the top of the thread - he has changed to standard Sachs suspension
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