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How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:14 pm
by Toe-side
For me I identified the models that shared the correct calipers and carriers and searched 'Breaking' and 'dismantling' of those models on the interweb. Searched a lot under 'E46' rather than 330
The carriers do have markings on them but you would not be able to see what the markings were fitted on a scrap car.
I made the judgement that if I found a car being dismantled that had those parts fitted as standard then........... 'bingo'
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How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:16 pm
by Toe-side
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:05 pm
by hopz121
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:34 pm
by Toe-side
Thats what I thought! Nothing to do with me......... just browsing and I found them
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How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:06 am
by kis
Thanks! I had a quick look, already sold!!
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How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:12 am
by kis
Toe-side wrote:For me I identified the models that shared the correct calipers and carriers and searched 'Breaking' and 'dismantling' of those models on the interweb. Searched a lot under 'E46' rather than 330
The carriers do have markings on them but you would not be able to see what the markings were fitted on a scrap car.
I made the judgement that if I found a car being dismantled that had those parts fitted as standard then........... 'bingo'
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Thanks for the replies mate. I've done the same, a lot of the cars that come up, once I call up requesting the part they've already sold. It's apparently a very popular mod with the old 3 Series too, the e36. The odd occasion they do have them they're asking in excess of £100. It's been mentioned a few times that they can be had for around £60. So looking at that sort of figure £60-80 ish.
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:16 am
by kis
Found a reasonable one! Link
here. I'm going to see if he'll let it go for a bit cheaper tho!
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How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:40 am
by cj10jeeper
kis wrote:Found a reasonable one! Link
here. I'm going to see if he'll let it go for a bit cheaper tho!
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Why wouldn't you just buy them and before posting? If the calipers are trashed then you can use them as cores to trade in. If not then you have a bargain.
Someone is likely to see the post and just buy them
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:41 am
by kis
cj10jeeper wrote:kis wrote:Found a reasonable one! Link
here. I'm going to see if he'll let it go for a bit cheaper tho!
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Why wouldn't you just buy them and before posting? If the calipers are trashed then you can use them as cores to trade in. If not then you have a bargain.
Someone is likely to see the post and just buy them
Just bagged a set for £70 from a breaker I contacted over the weekend so all good!
Also, I know
some people are like that. However I'd like to think that since this is a forum, of fellow enthusiasts, I'm among friends.
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:45 am
by cj10jeeper
kis wrote:cj10jeeper wrote:kis wrote:Found a reasonable one! Link
here. I'm going to see if he'll let it go for a bit cheaper tho!
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Why wouldn't you just buy them and before posting? If the calipers are trashed then you can use them as cores to trade in. If not then you have a bargain.
Someone is likely to see the post and just buy them
Just bagged a set for £70 from a breaker I contacted over the weekend so all good!
Also, I know
some people are like that. However I'd like to think that since this is a forum, of fellow enthusiasts, I'm among friends.
Brilliant that you have got a set
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In terms of 'trust' I agree and in general you are right, however at any time there are up to 500 guests on the site. There are 200 now as I post this .., so it's a wide audience
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:51 am
by kis
cj10jeeper wrote:Brilliant that you have got a set
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In terms of 'trust' I agree and in general you are right, however at any time there are up to 500 guests on the site. There are 200 now as I post this .., so it's a wide audience
Yes, finally!
Noted about the second comment! I'll be more weary about things in future
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How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:59 pm
by MrPT
Someone at the Duxford meet (apologies - cannot remember your name Mr '58 plate Montego Blue owner from Bucks who's going to LM with Airtrack this year) was sporting E46 M3 front discs on his 3L coupe - identified with the help of some Rain Man action from
Stu Boy.
I had a look at the specs...
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So ok... stock pads won't sweep the whole disc, and fresh pads and discs will be a bit of a squeeze, but the hub fits and the diameter is perfect.
Doesn't this make new or part-worn E46 M3 discs a decent upgrade option for 3.0si owners? They are nice, 2-piece drilled rotors and supply should be plentiful (in fact, I think a stock surplus is how the aforementioned gentleman secured these discs at a bargain price).
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:22 am
by kis
Interesting comment.
I think I did look into this but outlay seems to be quite a lot more than the 330, this is for parts whether new or second hand, and not sufficient gain. Also in terms of maintenance, just costs more because of the M name tag. Also I think the actual disc is the same (325mm) its just the thickness thats slightly more on the M. Obviously braking power of the M brakes themselves might be slightly more but not THAT much. Also some chatter on the 3 series forum about issues with the calipers being a direct fitment.
If it was a M3 CSL (which is 340mm or something) then this would probably be more "worth" it in terms of performance gains, provided everything fits. Wasn't too sure which is why I never pursed it myself. 330 is tried and tested...
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 8:54 am
by cj10jeeper
The whole purpose of this thread is for a cheap, easy direct swap and bolt on conversion.
Once you start to mix and match, add pads that don't fit, ///M parts it'sa different topic altogether.
How-to: Cheap brake upgrade
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:43 am
by MrPT
cj10jeeper wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2017 8:54 am
The whole purpose of this thread is for a cheap, easy direct swap and bolt on conversion.
Once you start to mix and match, add pads that don't fit, ///M parts it'sa different topic altogether.
Fair point. I did think that "bolt on" 2 piece floating rotors and >5kg less unsprung mass for ~£200 was pretty good value, but yes - not cheap compared to the other options in this thread.
Point is probably moot now. Doing a little more digging, I think they were actually
these OE option for the 3-series. And those definitely aren't cheap!