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Help! Oil filter housing/cooler fix not gone to plan…
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Help! Oil filter housing/cooler fix not gone to plan…
So a day after proudly proclaiming I’d finished sorting the oil filter housing, oil cooler and other jobs, I took the car for a brief spin to check things over - but unfortunately didn’t go exactly to plan!
Had a couple of issues:
The engine was running a bit hot by the time I’d got back home. Discovered that the car had suddenly realised it needed quite a bit more coolant! I’d run the bleeding procedure a good three/four times before going out, so thought I was all good on this front, but I guess not.
Anyway it had only just gone beyond the usual 90 degrees position and no engine overheating warning light, so hoping I should be alright on that front.
The main pain is that I could see evidence of some sort of oil leak/buildup underneath the oil cooler/oil filter housing:
I’m pretty sure I had cleaned this before reinstalling, so thinking it must be new - which is a huge bummer.
Weirdly there was also a couple of flicks of oil that has somehow made its way to the air filter box too:
I have a horrible feeling I may have over torqued the oil cooler… the YouTube video instructions I was blindly following said 22nm, but having Googled around I’m seeing 16nm mentioned instead.
Is that what’s gone wrong?
And if so, can I simply loosen the bolts so that they’re 16nm? I’m REALLY hoping that’s the solution, rather than needing to start the whole job again!
Anyway thanks for any help.
Had a couple of issues:
The engine was running a bit hot by the time I’d got back home. Discovered that the car had suddenly realised it needed quite a bit more coolant! I’d run the bleeding procedure a good three/four times before going out, so thought I was all good on this front, but I guess not.
Anyway it had only just gone beyond the usual 90 degrees position and no engine overheating warning light, so hoping I should be alright on that front.
The main pain is that I could see evidence of some sort of oil leak/buildup underneath the oil cooler/oil filter housing:
I’m pretty sure I had cleaned this before reinstalling, so thinking it must be new - which is a huge bummer.
Weirdly there was also a couple of flicks of oil that has somehow made its way to the air filter box too:
I have a horrible feeling I may have over torqued the oil cooler… the YouTube video instructions I was blindly following said 22nm, but having Googled around I’m seeing 16nm mentioned instead.
Is that what’s gone wrong?
And if so, can I simply loosen the bolts so that they’re 16nm? I’m REALLY hoping that’s the solution, rather than needing to start the whole job again!
Anyway thanks for any help.
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Help! Oil filter housing/cooler fix not gone to plan…
It doesn't look like the sort of housing that will distort if over tightened and 22Nm isn't the end of the world. It's a shaped O-ring from memory and that won't be affected.
The only real reason for seepage (assuming the gasket is in properly in the first place) is a bit of crud caught in it when putting it back together. This seems unlikely as you seemed to be uber-precautous. Go and watch a mechanic for an hour; they wouldn't even wipe it with an oily rag!
I'd wait and see if it gets any worse, it's probably just slime that's pooled.
The only real reason for seepage (assuming the gasket is in properly in the first place) is a bit of crud caught in it when putting it back together. This seems unlikely as you seemed to be uber-precautous. Go and watch a mechanic for an hour; they wouldn't even wipe it with an oily rag!
I'd wait and see if it gets any worse, it's probably just slime that's pooled.
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Help! Oil filter housing/cooler fix not gone to plan…
As above, very much doubt that the small difference in torque will have affected it. Could just be residue that has now got hot and run down after you did the job.
The flicks on the airbox simply suggest a bit has dropped onto the belt while it's running.
Give it a good clean and see what comes back.
The flicks on the airbox simply suggest a bit has dropped onto the belt while it's running.
Give it a good clean and see what comes back.
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Help! Oil filter housing/cooler fix not gone to plan…
Cheers both!
Was kicking myself about going wrong somewhere last night, but you could be right…I did spent a lot of time trying to clean the front of the engine, so it feels possible that I’ve just disturbed some sludge somewhere and it’s ended up on the belt. Not sure how else it would end up on the underside of the oil filter housing and air box!
Regardless, I’m thinking it might make sense to loosen the bolts for the oil cooler a little, and make sure they’re torque to 16nm - better safe than sorry.
I’ll clean it up, keep an eye on it and see how it goes.
Was kicking myself about going wrong somewhere last night, but you could be right…I did spent a lot of time trying to clean the front of the engine, so it feels possible that I’ve just disturbed some sludge somewhere and it’s ended up on the belt. Not sure how else it would end up on the underside of the oil filter housing and air box!
Regardless, I’m thinking it might make sense to loosen the bolts for the oil cooler a little, and make sure they’re torque to 16nm - better safe than sorry.
I’ll clean it up, keep an eye on it and see how it goes.
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Have you had your torque wrench properly calibrated lately?
If not, then I wouldn't worry too much as they can be up to 25% out.
Leave it as is.
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Yes 16nm is correct according to Newtis but as others have said not a biggie in the scheme of things and would leave as is . As above wipe down and see what happens .
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Brilliant, thanks guys.
In that case I’ll wipe down and I’ve got another excuse to go out for a test drive today
Panic over… for now! Cheers again all - I’ll update the thread if any oil/sludge makes a reappearance.
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As ever, the car is ungrateful for all your efforts but it should be alright in the end. I bought a bicycle torque wrench from Facebook Marketplace for £10. Comes in very handy with these plastic housings.
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Ha yes - always the way!raymond.harper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:15 am As ever, the car is ungrateful for all your efforts but it should be alright in the end.
Happy to say it looks like the oil sludge didn't return. Took it out for an extended test drive yesterday and seems all okay this time around, so looking like it might just have been a little bit of loose sludge that the belt flung around, which is a relief.
Will keep an eye on it but thinking it's all good!
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Or it's empty!
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Haha!
Would probably be the best way to stop the leaks
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