⌛Y3 Roof Diagnostic System (for all BMW convertible & roadster)

[meniack]

Yes in depth. I was hoping to purchase something like your amazing y3 roof diag system.

[flybobbie]

My Foxwell reader shows real time the switching of roof switches or hall sensors when operating the roof.
If there's a fault it stops and you can see where it got to and the fault code comes up.
For instance i could see a salmon relay said open when it should have been closed. Replacing the relay cured that problem.
Also used it to diagnose a lack of charge problem on battery.
Just about to use to bleed abs replacing brake fluid.
Has been worth every penny of about 130 quid.

[na51hog]

Which Foxwell model no. is that? There seem to be a fair few

[RobbiZ4]

Back to the initial topic!

2022 Upgrade:

Integration of the new 4 series convertible G23 ongoing.

All 5 concentrator boxes K1...K5 in a row.

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Supported BMW models:

K1: E89 - Z4 Roadster
K1: E93 - 3er convertible

K2: F33 - 4er convertible
K2: F83 - M4 convertible
K2: F91 - M8 convertible
K2: G14 - 8er convertible

K3: E46 - 3er convertible
K3: E52 - Z8 Roadster
K3: E64 - 6er convertible

K4: E88 - 1er convertible
K4: F23 - 2er convertible
K4: F12 - 6er convertible
K4: R57 - Mini convertible
K4: R59 - Mini Roadster

K5: G29 - Z4 Roadster
K5: Boldmen CR4
K5: G23 - 4er convertible
K5: I15 - i8 Roadster
K5: F57 - Mini convertible

The complete system configured for a 3 series E46...

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... and in a new Z4 G29:

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[Smartbear]

Are you planning on producing these to sell?
Rob

[RobbiZ4]

No, it's unique.

[RobbiZ4]

Update 10/2022:

Thanks guys for the flowers.

Well, did you have a look at the above linked details on the German website? Read the "short summary".

Here directly translated by Google (not bad, but not perfect):
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... st-3264750

For the following BMW convertibles, the Y3 tool got finished (K1..5 are these blue concentrator boxes):

K1: E89 - Z4 Roadster
K1: E93 - 3-series convertible

K2: F33 - 4-series convertible
K2: F83 - M4 convertible
K2: F91 - M8 convertible
K2: G14 - 8-series convertible

K3: E46 - 3-series convertible
K3: E52 - Z8 Roadster
K3: E64 - 6-series convertible

K4: E88 - 1-series convertible
K4: F23 - 2-series convertible
K4: F12 - 6-series convertible
K4: R57 - Mini convertible
K4: R59 - Mini Roadster

K5: G29 - Z4 Roadster
K5: G29 - Boldmen CR4 https://www.boldmen.de/en/
K5: G23 - 4-series convertible
K5: I15 - i8 Roadster
K5: F57 - Mini Cabrio

All 5 concentrator boxes (K1...K5) got completed in between, as well as tested with at a minimum of one model.

Work in progress:
K5: G83 - M4 convertible

K6: E85 Z4 Roadster
K6: R52 Mini convertible

Completed:
Addon interface box for the concentrators K2 ... K6 to manually control the front locking motors. Up to now this feature was only available in K1 for the E89/E93 models.

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First integration of an additional D-SUB interface connector into the concentrator K3 (E46 3-series, E52 Z8, E64 6-series):

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K3 completed - new AddOn box on the left, white remote control on the right, both connected to K3.

This interface connector has to be integrated into the other concentrators K2, K4...K6 as well in the next weeks...

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[RobbiZ4]

Grazie.

[RobbiZ4]

Update 10/2022:

Thanks guys for the flowers.

Well, did you have a look at the above linked details on the German website? Read the "short summary".

Here directly translated by Google (not bad, but not perfect):
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... st-3264750

[...]

Work in progress:
K5: G83 - M4 convertible

Completed:
K6: E85 Z4 Roadster
K6: R52 Mini convertible

The above named concentrator K6 for the elder Z4 E85 & Mini R52 has been completed as well.
A completely new interface cable for the 14+6 pole connector had to be built as well as the BlueBox K6.

Have a look at the development process of this Y-cable:

20 wires forth plus 20 wires back

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Additional 1.5mm² wires to control the motors

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Voila, Germany's Next Y-Cable.

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[RobbiZ4]

And also the build process of K6:

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Completed:

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[N!co]

That took a bit of soldering! Keep up the good work.

[RobbiZ4]

[...]
Completed:

Meanwhile also this concentrator got successfully tested on a Z4 E85.

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That took a bit of soldering! Keep up the good work.

Yes, indeed!

[RobbiZ4]

Update 11/2022:

[...]
Well, did you have a look at the above linked details on the German website? Read the "short summary".

Here directly translated by Google (not bad, but not perfect):
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... st-3264750

Work in progress:
K5: G83 - M4 convertible
K6: E85 Z4 Roadster
K6: R52 Mini convertible

Update 11/2022:

For the following BMW convertibles, the Y3 tool got finished (K1..6 are these blue concentrator boxes):

K1: E89 - Z4 Roadster
K1: E93 - 3-series convertible

K2: F33 - 4-series convertible
K2: F83 - M4 convertible
K2: F91 - M8 convertible
K2: G14 - 8-series convertible

K3: E46 - 3-series convertible
K3: E52 - Z8 Roadster
K3: E64 - 6-series convertible

K4: E88 - 1-series convertible
K4: F23 - 2-series convertible
K4: F12 - 6-series convertible
K4: R57 - Mini convertible
K4: R59 - Mini Roadster

K5: G29 - Z4 Roadster
K5: G29 - Boldmen CR4 https://www.boldmen.de/en/
K5: G23 - 4-series convertible
K5: G83 - M4 convertible
K5: I15 - i8 Roadster
K5: F57 - Mini Cabrio
K5: xx - reserved

K6: E85 - Z4 Roadster
K6: R52 - Mini convertible

All 6 concentrator boxes (K1...K6) got completed in between, as well as tested with at a minimum of one model.



Upgrade process of the K5 BlueBox to integrate the new 4-series convertible:

Before starting

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Opening of the BlueBox

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While soldering the additional wires to the G23/G83 plug

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Integration completed

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Ready for testing

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Re-mounting all plugs

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Top view

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[RobbiZ4]

[...]
Completed:
Addon interface box for the concentrators K2 ... K6 to manually control the front locking motors. Up to now this feature was only available in K1 for the E89/E93 models.

[...]

Arrgh, during a test session on an older Z4, here's what happened to my new addon interface box for the front locking systems:

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Melted conductor tracks on the circuit board.

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I had to redesign the complete unit and added an electronic overload protection (shunt, transistor, relay) to timely shut down this unit if a short circuit or current overload occurs on the front locking system. This additional group was placed on the left:

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My test environment with 3 different front locking systems: E93 , F33, E89

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