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Post by ori » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:44 am

Russ Z4 wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:18 pm I’m surprised it isn’t higher than 9.9. APR wise… Only gonna get worse from this point… for the time being at least. Would imagine it will impact the sales of the Z quite significantly.
On a low volume car like the zed, this could certainly mean any chance of extending or a new model in 2025 are out of the window.

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Post by Russ Z4 » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:49 am

I suspect you are right.

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Post by john-e89 » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:43 am

ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:58 pm Back on topic. What do we think of the newer mesh grille on the front? Surely not too expensive to replace if we wanted?
Fab....really like it Ori... :thumbsup:
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Post by BeardyJon » Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:22 pm

New grill is definitely an improvement.
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Post by ori » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:13 pm

BeardyJon wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:22 pm New grill is definitely an improvement.
Like all these things, I need to see it in the metal, but surely that’s not an expensive part to retrofit our current cars?

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Post by SHIFTY » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:16 pm

Looks similar to the attached link:-

https://www.diversionstores.co.uk/produ ... black-2019

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Post by Scubaregs » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:52 pm

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Post by sars » Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:19 pm

ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:07 pm
sars wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:08 pm That’s because our glorious leader has had the mad idea of giving tax cuts while the BoE are trying to stop spiralling inflation and therefore it is predicted that interest rates will have to rise three fold to 6%

Utter madness
While I partially agree with you, the tax carts equate to a few billion at worst assuming it doesn’t actually increase tax revenue. The energy cap is 60 billion in spending and Covid cost us 400 billion. Everyone was crying out for something to be done about energy costs and they did……hence inflation.
Who knew printing money gives inflation? Whole world is a mess.

Furthermore, BMW had already started to increase interest rates well before this.
Er the £2.0bn was the low estimate for the cost of just the 5% drop for the high earners, with the high estimate being nearer £6.0bn. No the real cost was the 1% drop for basic rate, NI reduction and the stamp duty reduction, though the latter’s not going to be significant as no one’s offering mortgages! Total tax cuts was around £45.0bn, the biggest tax giveaway in 50 years and all with borrowed money.

Anyway have now completed spot the difference, not sure about the new front side vents, but the new grill looks okay :thumbsup:
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Post by john-e89 » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:31 pm

sars wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:19 pm
ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:07 pm
sars wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:08 pm That’s because our glorious leader has had the mad idea of giving tax cuts while the BoE are trying to stop spiralling inflation and therefore it is predicted that interest rates will have to rise three fold to 6%

Utter madness
While I partially agree with you, the tax carts equate to a few billion at worst assuming it doesn’t actually increase tax revenue. The energy cap is 60 billion in spending and Covid cost us 400 billion. Everyone was crying out for something to be done about energy costs and they did……hence inflation.
Who knew printing money gives inflation? Whole world is a mess.

Furthermore, BMW had already started to increase interest rates well before this.
Er the £2.0bn was the low estimate for the cost of just the 5% drop for the high earners, with the high estimate being nearer £6.0bn. No the real cost was the 1% drop for basic rate, NI reduction and the stamp duty reduction, though the latter’s not going to be significant as no one’s offering mortgages! Total tax cuts was around £45.0bn, the biggest tax giveaway in 50 years and all with borrowed money.

Anyway have now completed spot the difference, not sure about the new front side vents, but the new grill looks okay :thumbsup:
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Post by Z4monster » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:02 am

I've no idea why BMW have singled out the Z4 update for 9.9% apr. Lots of other models at much lower rates. Maybe they really don't want to sell them :lol:
I've just changed mine thankfully so I'm hoping that it comes back down again before the End of Production so I can get a late model swap.
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Post by Nanu » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:32 pm

sars wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:08 pm That’s because our glorious leader has had the mad idea of giving tax cuts while the BoE are trying to stop spiralling inflation and therefore it is predicted that interest rates will have to rise three fold to 6%

Utter madness
I think you will find our interest rates are on par with most countries around the world and had nothing to do with the recent proposed tax cuts the majority of which don't actually kick in till April next year. Current inflation is due to supply chain issues and the price of oil and gas rather than spending or taxation.
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Post by Nanu » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:37 pm

Er the £2.0bn was the low estimate for the cost of just the 5% drop for the high earners, with the high estimate being nearer £6.0bn. No the real cost was the 1% drop for basic rate, NI reduction and the stamp duty reduction, though the latter’s not going to be significant as no one’s offering mortgages! Total tax cuts was around £45.0bn, the biggest tax giveaway in 50 years and all with borrowed money.

Anyway have now completed spot the difference, not sure about the new front side vents, but the new grill looks okay :thumbsup:

[/quote]Re the drop from 45p. If you listen to the BBC the cost is anything up to 5 billion. If you listen to one of the top economic experts Professor Patrick Minford, he actually says the tax take will increase because of the reduction. Just like it did during the 13 years of the Blair Govt. when it was at 40p. As soon as he put it back up to 45p in the last few moths of his term tax take fell again. Evidence based not speculation.

Plus didn't notice the differences and don't think they are worth the additional cost. Hopefully more colours though
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Post by ori » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:38 pm

SHIFTY wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:16 pm Looks similar to the attached link:-

https://www.diversionstores.co.uk/produ ... black-2019
Does look similar. I’m sure we can order the new grilles from BMW when they are available (just need the part numbers), but I wonder if they are a straight swap? They might be a lightly different size.
Maybe it’s one of those things that I say I will swap, but never actually do!

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Post by MrLatte » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:45 pm

millview22 wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 2:22 pm
MrLatte wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:22 pm
millview22 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:26 pm Resistance was useless...I have ordered a purple. I'm told the build date is November and delivery December - we'll see!
Are you in the uk? I’ve put down a holding deposit but waiting on confirmation of build dates, they were suggesting March.
Yup, UK. Well, the system had a build date for a Z4 in November and my spec was applied to that, so we'll see.
Has that slot been confirmed? my local dealer are trying the same on my behalf but fully expect it to be rejected.
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Post by ori » Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:19 pm

BMW have reduced the interest rate to 5.9%.
Still double what it was.

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