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Post by ori » Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:43 pm

MrLatte wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:14 pm the good news is can now buy the lci online on bmw.co.uk, the bad news is that the apr on a new car has gone up from 2.9 to 9.9 which makes the upgrade seem very expensive.
9.9% APR!!!! You sure? BMW usually discount theirs a lot. I thought maybe 6.9 at worst!

9.9% compared to 2.9% means that a £400 a month would be £1200!!!!
Not gonna lie, that’s me out. :(

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Post by Argyll Andy » Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:49 pm

ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:43 pm
MrLatte wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:14 pm the good news is can now buy the lci online on bmw.co.uk, the bad news is that the apr on a new car has gone up from 2.9 to 9.9 which makes the upgrade seem very expensive.
9.9% APR!!!! You sure? BMW usually discount theirs a lot. I thought maybe 6.9 at worst!

9.9% compared to 2.9% means that a £400 a month would be £1200!!!!
Not gonna lie, that’s me out. :(
I’ve just gone on for a look, prices like for like have gone from £254 to £900, 9.9% same with me, unless I’m buying outright, no chance :thumbsdown:

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    Post by john-e89 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:15 pm

    Argyll Andy wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:49 pm
    ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:43 pm
    MrLatte wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:14 pm the good news is can now buy the lci online on bmw.co.uk, the bad news is that the apr on a new car has gone up from 2.9 to 9.9 which makes the upgrade seem very expensive.
    9.9% APR!!!! You sure? BMW usually discount theirs a lot. I thought maybe 6.9 at worst!

    9.9% compared to 2.9% means that a £400 a month would be £1200!!!!
    Not gonna lie, that’s me out. :(
    I’ve just gone on for a look, prices like for like have gone from £254 to £900, 9.9% same with me, unless I’m buying outright, no chance :thumbsdown:
    9.9% on a new build....?? :o Really...??

    I'd rather s**t in my hat and punch it than pay that..... :x
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    Post by ori » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:37 pm

    Argyll Andy wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:49 pm
    ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:43 pm
    MrLatte wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:14 pm the good news is can now buy the lci online on bmw.co.uk, the bad news is that the apr on a new car has gone up from 2.9 to 9.9 which makes the upgrade seem very expensive.
    9.9% APR!!!! You sure? BMW usually discount theirs a lot. I thought maybe 6.9 at worst!

    9.9% compared to 2.9% means that a £400 a month would be £1200!!!!
    Not gonna lie, that’s me out. :(
    I’ve just gone on for a look, prices like for like have gone from £254 to £900, 9.9% same with me, unless I’m buying outright, no chance :thumbsdown:
    That’s with a 9k deposit. Just ran it myself.
    Think I’ll stick to my faster blue. :))))

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    Post by pvr » Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:52 pm

    I will offer 9% :D
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    Post by Argyll Andy » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:05 pm

    ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:37 pm
    Argyll Andy wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:49 pm
    ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:43 pm

    9.9% APR!!!! You sure? BMW usually discount theirs a lot. I thought maybe 6.9 at worst!

    9.9% compared to 2.9% means that a £400 a month would be £1200!!!!
    Not gonna lie, that’s me out. :(
    I’ve just gone on for a look, prices like for like have gone from £254 to £900, 9.9% same with me, unless I’m buying outright, no chance :thumbsdown:
    That’s with a 9k deposit. Just ran it myself.
    Think I’ll stick to my faster blue. :))))
    £18.25k deposit :o
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      Post by sars » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:08 pm

      That’s because our glorious leader has had the mad idea of giving tax cuts while the BoE are trying to stop spiralling inflation and therefore it is predicted that interest rates will have to rise three fold to 6%

      Utter madness
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      Post by pvr » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:10 pm

      Still a bargain compared to the 15% I used to pay for my first house
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      Post by MrLatte » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:43 pm

      I’m hoping it’s a mistake, I was already shopping for a matching purple T-shirt! :D
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      Post by tiglon » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:46 pm

      pvr wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:10 pm Still a bargain compared to the 15% I used to pay for my first house
      Except back then house price to earnings ratio was about a third of what it is now!
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      Post by ori » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:07 pm

      sars wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:08 pm That’s because our glorious leader has had the mad idea of giving tax cuts while the BoE are trying to stop spiralling inflation and therefore it is predicted that interest rates will have to rise three fold to 6%

      Utter madness
      While I partially agree with you, the tax carts equate to a few billion at worst assuming it doesn’t actually increase tax revenue. The energy cap is 60 billion in spending and Covid cost us 400 billion. Everyone was crying out for something to be done about energy costs and they did……hence inflation.
      Who knew printing money gives inflation? Whole world is a mess.

      Furthermore, BMW had already started to increase interest rates well before this.

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      Post by ori » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:16 pm

      tiglon wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:46 pm
      pvr wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:10 pm Still a bargain compared to the 15% I used to pay for my first house
      Except back then house price to earnings ratio was about a third of what it is now!
      Yeah, but that’s the rub isn’t it. We have got used to money being so cheap that we rely on it being in constant supply to get and do the things we want.

      Yeah house prices were cheaper, but the cost of a mortgage was in the high teens.
      Also banks have made a killing with low interest rates. Leaning people money on credit cards around 20% while interest rates were around 0.5%
      Developers loans which small developers rely on ran at about 9% a year. Huge margins for lenders.
      On the flip side of that, car manufactures like BMW used low interest rates to make their cars artificially affordable to more people.

      Reality is 9.9% is high, but there are still pcp deals out there on 6.9 and 7.9% if you are desperate to get a new car.

      Back to point, while I could probably stretch to a new car, now is not the time to leave myself stretched! So I’ll stick to my faster blue m40i. ;)

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      Post by MrLatte » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:34 pm

      ori wrote: Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:07 pm While I partially agree with you, the tax carts equate to a few billion at worst assuming it doesn’t actually increase tax revenue. The energy cap is 60 billion in spending and Covid cost us 400 billion. Everyone was crying out for something to be done about energy costs and they did……hence inflation.
      Who knew printing money gives inflation? Whole world is a mess.

      Furthermore, BMW had already started to increase interest rates well before this.


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      Post by ori » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:58 pm

      Back on topic. What do we think of the newer mesh grille on the front? Surely not too expensive to replace if we wanted?

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      Post by Russ Z4 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:18 pm

      I’m surprised it isn’t higher than 9.9. APR wise… Only gonna get worse from this point… for the time being at least. Would imagine it will impact the sales of the Z quite significantly.

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