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Pressure cap blow off!!

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Pressure cap blow off!!

Post by mcbutler » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:45 pm

Hi all,

Well, dragged the car out for a spin today, popped into town to get a pressie for Kat then over to a garden centre to pick up a plant for her. On the way back I smelt a distinct 'puff' of hot coolant!!.
'Someones got a water leak' I thought, seconds later a gong and orange low water lamp!!!
Only a mile from home so nursed her back, no red lights or overheat warnings, oil temp steady and hot air coming from heater vents (always a good way to check).
Pulled up and could see steam emanating from the front of the bonnet drivers side, opened bonnet and pressure cap is sat on top of the rocker cover!! and coolant boiling and hissing all over the place.
Topped her up, took 2 1/2 boiled kettles, ran the coolant prime process and now shes stood outside 'cooling down' so I can check the level cold.

So, whats the chance of that happeing I wonder, you might all want to check your coolant tank caps are clicked all the way on, nice and tight......
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Post by Johnny h » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:54 pm

Holy sh!t……..I’ll give mine a look this weekend…hope she’s ok..🤞🏻
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Post by B21 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:58 pm

Very unusual
We choose to go to on with this endeavour at this time and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard…
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:18 pm

Hmm, very interesting.

Just today I replaced my cap by a new one, as the old one had several traces of broken material.

White/Blue traces of water blown out:
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Several broken parts, inner o-ring lost: :o
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Old cap on the left, new one on the right:
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Yes, 10 year old caps should be checked or better replaced in advance. I will put this as an additional task into my recommendations.



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Post by mcbutler » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:22 pm

Yeah i need to check my seals, no obvious marking on the top of the header tank though.
Thanks for taking the time to post the pics, i appreciate that :thumbsup:
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:34 pm

mcbutler wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:22 pm Yeah i need to check my seals, ...
The brand new cap has in total 3 o-rings mounted.
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Post by mcbutler » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:42 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:34 pm
mcbutler wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:22 pm Yeah i need to check my seals, ...
The brand new cap has in total 3 o-rings mounted.
How much Robbi, and is your car a 35i?
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Post by BoxClever » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:51 pm

Is a very common problem on E46's and i've replaced a few caps with newer better ones, and also changed bleed screws for brass ones. Obviously any older car needs the whole cooling system going through at some point.
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Post by RobbiZ4 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:33 pm

mcbutler wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:42 pm
RobbiZ4 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:34 pm
mcbutler wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:22 pm Yeah i need to check my seals, ...
The brand new cap has in total 3 o-rings mounted.
How much Robbi, and is your car a 35i?
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But I assume it's model independent, rather age dependent.
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Post by Busterboo » Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:58 am

In 70,000 miles, my engine's used between 4 and 5 litres of Comma Extream G48 coolant. The 'floating prong' is a clever level indicator and makes the coolant level easy to check. That said, I noticed from the beginning that the cap didn't close tight, but assumed it tightened as it heated. I've never tried it to find out because there have been no sign of leakage or excess use.

It is noticeable in your 2nd photo, RobbiZ4, that the prong isn't central and this corresponds to the white marks on the inside of the cap. Seating the prong centrally under the cap is a bit fiddly. Is it possible that, once upon a time, yours wasn't central, was caught between the O-ring and its rim and coolant escaped? Or something like that?

p.s. Presumably, you've drained the system of kettle water by now and re-filled it with an equivalent of G48, have you?
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