Yep, another roof issue.. can someone help me?

RobbiZ4 · Post by **RobbiZ4** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:24 am

warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:16 am I'll check the wiring with the roof up by removing the cloth tape and see what I can find.

Broken wires in the roof shell are difficult to identify visually without dismanteling the roof shell.

warmasice · Post by **warmasice** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:55 am

RobbiZ4 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:24 am
warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:16 am I'll check the wiring with the roof up by removing the cloth tape and see what I can find.
Broken wires in the roof shell are difficult to identify visually without dismanteling the roof shell.

Ah ok. I was thinking of taking a look at the ones at the edge of the roof as seen here at the 10min mark: https://youtu.be/3q52HtkK6mU ...I know that's a very specific scenario but I think I'll take a look anyway, just to eliminate it if anything.

Just to confirm, there are two hall sensors on the right ram, correct? Can they be cleaned at all?

I really do appreciate your advice. Thank you.

RobbiZ4 · Post by **RobbiZ4** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:20 pm

warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:55 am Just to confirm, there are two hall sensors on the right ram, correct? Can they be cleaned at all?

Yes, there are 2 on the right, none on the left.

What dou you mean with "clean"?
They have to get removed for checking, replaced with new ones if rusty, nothing else.

Here is a link to pics:
viewtopic.php?p=1921079#p1921079

warmasice · Post by **warmasice** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:24 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:20 pm
warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:55 am Just to confirm, there are two hall sensors on the right ram, correct? Can they be cleaned at all?
Yes, there are 2 on the right, none on the left.

What dou you mean with "clean"?
They have to get removed for checking, replaced with new ones if rusty, nothing else.

Here is a link to pics:
viewtopic.php?p=1921079#p1921079

Yes, just meant if rusty. Thanks, I'll take a look at the link my friend.

RobbiZ4 · Post by **RobbiZ4** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:03 pm

warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:24 pm
RobbiZ4 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:20 pm
warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:55 am Just to confirm, there are two hall sensors on the right ram, correct? Can they be cleaned at all?
Yes, there are 2 on the right, none on the left.

What dou you mean with "clean"?
They have to get removed for checking, replaced with new ones if rusty, nothing else.

Here is a link to pics:
viewtopic.php?p=1921079#p1921079
Yes, just meant if rusty. Thanks, I'll take a look at the link my friend.

Well, in this special case it means, that it's electromagnetical functionality is destroyed and it doesn't work anymore as intended. This can't be cleaned and has to be replaced.

Ole gits rule · Post by **Ole gits rule** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:41 pm

I am certainly no expert but the failure seen is very similar to what I had and Robbie diagnosed this, went to a local and indy and they confirmed microswitches.

Deepseaskateboard · Post by **Deepseaskateboard** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:39 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:16 am
Deepseaskateboard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:15 pm There is an updated wiring loom which can be fitted.
What is that?
I love these web recommendations about things, that one have never dealt with before.

This is from my invoice.
I think the part B61 is the new wiring.

RobbiZ4 · Post by **RobbiZ4** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:46 pm

No, part B61 is a short cable adapter for this microswitch coupling fastener to support an improved plug(!) format.

That has nothing to do with the critical and expensive hydraulic harness in the roof, we are always talking about (and where the sensor wires will break). It cost's more than 1.000 Euros (54377311084).

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/de/showpart ... 1132359999

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Deepseaskateboard · Post by **Deepseaskateboard** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:57 pm

RobbiZ4 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:46 pm No, part B61 is a short cable adapter for this microswitch coupling fastener to support an improved plug(!) format.

That has nothing to do with the critical and expensive hydraulic harness in the roof, we are always talking about (and where the sensor wires will break). It cost's more than 1.000 Euros (54377311084).

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/de/showpart ... 1132359999
Bild1.jpg

I was meaning wiring, not hydraulics!

It’s expensive if they go awry.

So this is an adapter which allows the old wiring to be connected to a new version microswitch?

Smartbear · Post by **Smartbear** » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:58 pm

Deepseaskateboard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:57 pm
RobbiZ4 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:46 pm No, part B61 is a short cable adapter for this microswitch coupling fastener to support an improved plug(!) format.

That has nothing to do with the critical and expensive hydraulic harness in the roof, we are always talking about (and where the sensor wires will break). It cost's more than 1.000 Euros (54377311084).

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/de/showpart ... 1132359999
Bild1.jpg
I was meaning wiring, not hydraulics!

It’s expensive if they go awry.

So this is an adapter which allows the old wiring to be connected to a new version microswitch?

Yes, the plugs are different.
Rob

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