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Atacama Yellow 35is build thread

Specific discussion about the E89 2009 Z4 (sDrive35is, sDrive35i, sDrive30i, sDrive23i)
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Post by B21 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:17 pm

Smartbear wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:11 pm After changing the electronic pump on my 3.0si i thought it would be just as easy on the 35is, boy was i wrong :cry:
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I’ll leave that to my tech guy…seems to spend his life replacing inaccessible parts in cars where they appear to have built the engine bay after the engine was fitted..

I think it’s a good combo..I source the quality bits..if in doubt he fits them, then I do any fettling or tweaking… :thumbsup:

When I put my garage up this summer my excuses will wain…
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Post by Smartbear » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:51 pm

I hope that came with instructions, I’m terrible at jigsaws :P
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Post by B21 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:55 pm

Smartbear wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:51 pm I hope that came with instructions, I’m terrible at jigsaws :P
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There’s a label on the outside that says instructions are on the inside…what possibly could go wrong.. :tumbleweed: :rofl:
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Post by Ed.Straker » Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:37 pm

B21 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:17 pm
Smartbear wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:11 pm After changing the electronic pump on my 3.0si i thought it would be just as easy on the 35is, boy was i wrong :cry:
Rob
I’ll leave that to my tech guy…seems to spend his life replacing inaccessible parts in cars where they appear to have built the engine bay after the engine was fitted..

I think it’s a good combo..I source the quality bits..if in doubt he fits them, then I do any fettling or tweaking… :thumbsup:

When I put my garage up this summer my excuses will wain…
Nice IKEA flat pack

I bought something similar and it went together very easily

As if they had made one before

Carry on with the good work you must have spent a small fortune by now?
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Post by Argyll Andy » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:20 pm

Ed.Straker wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:37 pm Carry on with the good work you must have spent a small fortune by now?
Ed, he thinks by spending lots of small fortunes Mo won’t notice it’s a bloody large one he’s spent :lol:

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    Post by B21 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:11 pm

    Argyll Andy wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:20 pm
    Ed.Straker wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:37 pm Carry on with the good work you must have spent a small fortune by now?
    Ed, he thinks by spending lots of small fortunes Mo won’t notice it’s a bloody large one he’s spent :lol:
    I think she’s finally starting to twig..I’m the purveyor of my own demise..

    I left boxes of opened goodies everywhere…spent the last few days re-boxing and storing neatly on my shelves in the shed…

    It looks like a spare parts complex.
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    Post by B21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:55 pm

    I see that xHP (the gearbox tuning app) and MHD (the engine cu tuning app) have had various revisions..so decided to reflash both.

    I had set the MHD throttle to linear rather than the default where it gives a lot of throttle for not much pedal (try 650nm in the wet) and also speed of throttle reponse to "M1"..

    I found the M1 setting a bit too touchy especially in sports mode and when doing less than about 70 mph..so I adjusted it to a mid point about halfway between 'M1' and 'normal'

    At the same time I changed the default gearbox for MHD to 'manual' which is what xHP generically recommend for tuned engines.

    Turns out that MHD andxHP have worked together and you can use either the 'DCT' or 'manual' options.

    Chatting on another thread it was asked about BHP and how strong the gearbox was..I've copied this across for completeness.. :thumbsup:

    So the DCT is Getrag's GS7D36SG..there were 4 versions..the E89 had the first version.

    BHP is not the issue with gearboxes its torque.

    35i has 450 nm as stock and 35is has 500nm through overboost.

    The clutches are controlled by pressure at up to 17 BAR which is alledged to related to 600 nm torque.

    Other boxes have an 18 BAR limit which relates to 700nm torque.

    My 35is on a MHD stage 1 tune V9 made 562nm, on a stage 2+ V9 made 591nm and on stage 2+ V10 made 648nm

    So for this and other good reasons xHP is your friend..with a 19 BAR limt it can do 800nm+ and now, released 20 BAR for 1000nm..(stage 3)

    That is if you tune it..

    What's very important at this end of town is that the tune and the gearbox talk in full to each other..so piggy back tuners and back street maps are a really bad idea as the geasrbox may not realise how much torque is being produced and as a result does not applye nough clamping pressure..once DCT clutches slip they burn out very fast.

    Auto boxes like the ZF 8HP have torque limiters which saves the box from its own demise..the DCT hasn't got them.

    xHP allows you to place torque limits but without a dyno you don't know whether you are skirting close to the edge..

    My new turbos are predicted to make around 735 nm so a 19 BAR limit should work nicely.

    I spent the day tweaking xHP and MHD and I've got it to a very nice place in terms of smoothness, response and performance.

    So the powertrain feels pretty good at this stage.

    More fettling required on the chassis, hopefully sorted out over the next 2 or 3 weeks between runs..
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    Post by ronk » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:03 pm

    So a trip to the “Ring “ will be on the card next year?
    You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
    So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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    Post by Argyll Andy » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:27 pm

    ronk wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:03 pm So a trip to the “Ring “ will be on the card next year?
    No need, he lives in Scotland :wink: :driving:

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      Post by B21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:40 pm

      ronk wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:03 pm So a trip to the “Ring “ will be on the card next year?
      Ron several reasons why not..

      Acute embarrassment when either some even older duffer goes pissing past me in his Audi touring car or a zitty young pup blows me away with a tweaked Seat …

      Binning it then trying to explain to the breakdown and recovery guys that you were just pottering to the supermarket… :driving:

      Realised a long time ago that it’s not what you’ve got it’s how good / bad / mad you are….I’m not that good / bad / mad .. :tumbleweed: :rofl:
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      Post by B21 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:42 pm

      Argyll Andy wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:27 pm
      ronk wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:03 pm So a trip to the “Ring “ will be on the card next year?
      No need, he lives in Scotland :wink: :driving:
      That’s for sure too…God bless this wonderful country…long may it continue.. :driving: :driving: :driving:
      We choose to go to on with this endeavour at this time and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard…
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      Post by ronk » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:59 am

      B21 wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:40 pm
      ronk wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:03 pm So a trip to the “Ring “ will be on the card next year?
      Ron several reasons why not..

      Acute embarrassment when either some even older duffer goes pissing past me in his Audi touring car or a zitty young pup blows me away with a tweaked Seat …

      Binning it then trying to explain to the breakdown and recovery guys that you were just pottering to the supermarket… :driving:

      Realised a long time ago that it’s not what you’ve got it’s how good / bad / mad you are….I’m not that good / bad / mad .. :tumbleweed: :rofl:
      Basically keep ego and ability in the correct ratio!
      You don't stop playing when you get old - You get old when you stop playing!
      So I bought a 35is with all the toys to play with. :thumbsup:

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      Post by B21 » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:22 pm

      Primary focus has been to use the good weather windows to remove the big bank that was the only place a new garage could go..remove about 200 tons of earth,..then start with a new concrete raft…frame for the raft now in place..hoping to pour the 8” thick raft on Thursday
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      Post by Mr Tidy » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:30 pm

      Good to see you managed to hire a dump truck in the right colour. :lol:

      Good luck with your building project. :thumbsup:
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      Post by john-e89 » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:31 pm

      Never 200 tonnes....! Really..? :?

      And it's concrete shuttering, not frame..... :poke:

      Don't start on me you're as bad...... :poke: :poke: :wink:
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