Nope, they were still in almost new condition as were front lollypops
However I did replace the track rod ends, f/r drop links, rear top mounts & RTAB/RTAL’s with Rogue Engineering bits after some good advice on here
Nope, they were still in almost new condition as were front lollypops
So nothing to do with Bilstein or KW? Just saying how crap Toyota struts areafennell wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:46 pm No experiance the Billy's on my Z, but i used to go through fronts on my mr2 turbo. Just put it down to lowered springs on oem shocls and our pothole uk roads. I also had one pop when lowering the jack, i was droping the jack slowely next minute oil all over the front strut.
THis is going back 5 years, but all shocks were purchased from Toyota.
Yes yours was one I came across Ed that made me think, “nope not going B12.”Ed Doe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:12 pm @Jembo - mine were under 3 years old when they failed. They had done 25k miles daily driving, plus 3 trackdays - the Passenger front burst and oil all exited the damper, meaning it essentially became completely solid. Upon removal of the other front it wasn't looking in particularly good condition either. As a point of note I was pretty fastidious about keeping the dampers clean during winter months to avoid any corrosion or salt/grit damage. Dampers had sleeves over the pistons too.
Annoyingly the failure happened on a drive out with my wife, who spent the whole journey moaning about how tragically bad the ride was in the Z4
Anyone with a KWV3 setup that can help me answer this?Mos6689 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:39 pm Hey all, I’m considering going down the KW route but concerned about possibly needing spacers to fit them. Seems to be a mixed bag, some use 10mm spacers, others don’t use any. I’ve just fitted a set of wheels that don’t allow me to have spacers added because they’re flush already, so this kind of kills it for me if I need spacers to fit KW’s. Anyone with KW’s that can advise? Don’t see the point in going down the club sport route because I’m not going to use this car on any track days.
On the flip side of the coin, no one seems to run spacers with the B12 kit. Is that correct? From reading I’m not keen on Bilstein because they don’t seem to be as reliable as the KW’s & obviously no adjustability unless I go up to B16’s. However again I’ve seen a couple of these sets fall flat & fail. General consensus is definitely the KW’s but will I be able to fit?
Mos6689 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:53 pmSo nothing to do with Bilstein or KW? Just saying how crap Toyota struts areafennell wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:46 pm No experiance the Billy's on my Z, but i used to go through fronts on my mr2 turbo. Just put it down to lowered springs on oem shocls and our pothole uk roads. I also had one pop when lowering the jack, i was droping the jack slowely next minute oil all over the front strut.
THis is going back 5 years, but all shocks were purchased from Toyota.
Yes the mr2 ran factory Bilsteins .
I wasn’t planning to lower much at all to be honest. One of the factors in deciding on the KW’s was the fact it can be set closest to stock height. My old si coupe I lowered, only on eibachs & scraped the fangs so often it just became unpleasant to drive.RedUn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:49 pm Bilsteins are mono tube dampers, have a read up on the dual tube dampers like the KW, they are on a different level completely
Mos, it's worth while remembering when you lower the car your wheels tuck, often a flush wheel at oem height will be sunk in the arch once lowered.
Interesting, if this helps, I came from a 987 years ago, the suspension is the worst part of the Z4m by far.Mos6689 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:39 amI wasn’t planning to lower much at all to be honest. One of the factors in deciding on the KW’s was the fact it can be set closest to stock height. My old si coupe I lowered, only on eibachs & scraped the fangs so often it just became unpleasant to drive.RedUn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:49 pm Bilsteins are mono tube dampers, have a read up on the dual tube dampers like the KW, they are on a different level completely
Mos, it's worth while remembering when you lower the car your wheels tuck, often a flush wheel at oem height will be sunk in the arch once lowered.
I’m still really torn on whether to go for the KW’s & if it doesn’t fit without changing wheels, potentially have to sell the new wheels & tyres that I’ve just spent over £1500 on or just stick with stock & keep the wheels. I don’t completely hate the ride but it certainly leaves me wanting, especially coming from a 981. God I love & hate this car so much at the same time!
From the reading I’ve done, the change in handling & ride is night & day with the KW’s. So I’m leaning towards just biting the bullet, hope they fit & if they don’t, sacrifice the wheels. As much as I love them, if I’m going to keep this car as long as I hope to, having a better suspension setup is definitely more logical in the long run.
Yup that’s it, biting the bullet. Emailed Julian at Balance Motorsport & he sorted out a bit of discount.RedUn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:25 pmInteresting, if this helps, I came from a 987 years ago, the suspension is the worst part of the Z4m by far.Mos6689 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:39 amI wasn’t planning to lower much at all to be honest. One of the factors in deciding on the KW’s was the fact it can be set closest to stock height. My old si coupe I lowered, only on eibachs & scraped the fangs so often it just became unpleasant to drive.RedUn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:49 pm Bilsteins are mono tube dampers, have a read up on the dual tube dampers like the KW, they are on a different level completely
Mos, it's worth while remembering when you lower the car your wheels tuck, often a flush wheel at oem height will be sunk in the arch once lowered.
I’m still really torn on whether to go for the KW’s & if it doesn’t fit without changing wheels, potentially have to sell the new wheels & tyres that I’ve just spent over £1500 on or just stick with stock & keep the wheels. I don’t completely hate the ride but it certainly leaves me wanting, especially coming from a 981. God I love & hate this car so much at the same time!
From the reading I’ve done, the change in handling & ride is night & day with the KW’s. So I’m leaning towards just biting the bullet, hope they fit & if they don’t, sacrifice the wheels. As much as I love them, if I’m going to keep this car as long as I hope to, having a better suspension setup is definitely more logical in the long run.
I decided to just go for it and see if the KWs would "fix it" if they didn't I would have sold the car as it was that annoying as standard, that was probably 8 years ago now and the zeds a keeper.
If your doing it, do the top mounts front and rear, rear trailing arm bushes and Anti Roll Bars then get it set up properly.
Sod the wheels, you need it to drive right first, you can tweak the looks after once you know your keeping it