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Post by TitanTim » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:57 am

Pastry wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:30 am
srhutch wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:40 am Be thankful you’re not paying £555 like most ///M owners :x
I could have to drive a Hyundai i10 :roll: :D
Its still cheaper than the bus and has back seats :)

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Post by Buckley06 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:03 pm

But the government uses the money to improve our roads like not filling in pot holes.
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Post by Peter-E36 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:07 pm

These complaints are hilarious :rofl:
Another victim of the Irish Motor Tax system here... Tax for my 3.0 is €1,494 per year (that’s 1,310 pounds to you!) :cry:
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Post by Attilio » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:14 pm

Peter-E36 wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:07 pm These complaints are hilarious :rofl:
Another victim of the Irish Motor Tax system here... Tax for my 3.0 is €1,494 per year (that’s 1,310 pounds to you!) :cry:
I guess it’s relative: we are now used to being taken for a ride (it still burns though :cry: )
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Post by gov » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:15 pm

Marlon wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:42 am
gov wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:39 am I don't pay any tax for my zed - cause' I aint got one :( :( - really must find another one for this summer :lol:
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Post by GAZA62 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:51 pm

Rip off Britain strikes again it costs me less to insure and MOT my car than my road tax :thumbsdown: did they not discuss scrapping road tax an putting the petrol price up a little ?

Was on the M20 yesterday some terrible pot holes makes you wonder where our money really goes. :x
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Post by Buckley06 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:55 pm

GAZA62 wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:51 pm Rip off Britain strikes again it costs me less to insure and MOT my car than my road tax :thumbsdown: did they not discuss scrapping road tax an putting the petrol price up a little ?


Was on the M20 yesterday some terrible pot holes makes you wonder where our money really goes. :x

Bad idea then I would have to pay for my leon :poke:
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Post by ben g » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:05 pm

firebobby wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
It's an emissions tax. It has nothing to do with filling potholes in.

It basically goes into one big pot and the government decides what it gets spent on.

It's only Road tax in that it needs to be paid if you wish to drive or store your vehicle on the road. It's not a 'pay it and we fix roads' tax. I really wish people would stop thinking of it in that way, because it begins to get boring when people constantly moan about paying road tax and then linking it with the rubbish standard of our roads.
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Post by pvr » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:16 pm

You should drive a 911, half the road tax :fuelfire:

Ok, my new x5 replacement will be in the top bracket this time.

I have taken to defensive road proportioning now, ie right in the middle. Any policeman that has an issue with that will receive my frank opinion on the state of the roads.

We need some European engineers in the U.K. to teach them how to make proper roads.
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Post by GAZA62 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:27 pm

Well i never realised :oops: Road Tax was abolished in 1937 as Ben pointed out its our Income and Council tax that goes toward repairing the roads.
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Post by MrPT » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:28 pm

john-e89 wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:48 am
firebobby wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
That’s extremely unfair Fred, really it is.... :x

Just a thought though, have you actually told them half the car is wood and it’ll naturally decompose and return to nature whence it came from in a few years......? :poke:


:D Maybe he's getting charged for carbon offset?

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Post by firebobby » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:12 pm

Pastry wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:49 am
john-e89 wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:48 am
firebobby wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
That’s extremely unfair Fred, really it is.... :x

Just a thought though, have you actually told them half the car is wood and it’ll naturally decompose and return to nature whence it came from in a few years......? :poke:
john-e89 wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:48 am
firebobby wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
That’s extremely unfair Fred, really it is.... :x

Just a thought though, have you actually told them half the car is wood and it’ll naturally decompose and return to nature whence it came from in a few years......? :poke:
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Post by firebobby » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:21 pm

ben g wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:05 pm
firebobby wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:37 am Just taxed the Zed for the summer and it's jumped another £10 this year, £315 :thumbsdown:
Daylight robbery when you look at the state of the roads :evil:

Rant over..... that's better
It's a road tax. And should be used to fill potholes.

It basically goes into one big pot and the government decides how to waste it.

It's a Road tax in that it needs to be paid if you wish to drive or store and ruin your vehicle on the roads..
We pay all this road tax and still they don't repair the pot holes :roll:, glad you agree with us moaners.. it's good to have a moan :P
And yes I should get a reduction as my car is part tree :wink:
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Post by 2dogs » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:36 pm

Not so many drinkers and smokers so it’s down to the motorists too make up the shortfall :headbang:
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Post by Grumpyowl » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:22 pm

I can't understand why the VED, Roadtax, Emissions tax whatever you want to call it is not a pay as you use it tax.

If any tax can be fair Surely if the duty is put on at the pump wether that be 5,10,or 20p per litre its the only fair way.
My DD company car ( diesel) does no less than 30k miles per annum why is it that the tax is less than half of my hobby car doing 2k miles per annum.

To avoid losing revenue.
They could still keep the tax on £40k+ value vehicles and extra charge for higher emissions new cars at point of sale.
All vehicles have a pollution usage even the electric and hybrid vehicles, where do they get their electricity from ?
Pollution causing power stations, I'd have them have a special electric metre installed that charges a premium for the electric charge over and above the domestic rate.

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