Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

M /// Max wheel offset question

"M" Specific discussion
Mister T
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1073
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:18 am

Re: M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by Mister T » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:57 pm

With a 225/35/19 on an 8.5J rim you'd get away with ET29 on the front, that's a very small tyre

User avatar
Beedub
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 11004
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:25 pm
Location: Sutton Coldfield

Re: M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by Beedub » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:21 pm

Mister T wrote:With a 225/35/19 on an 8.5J rim you'd get away with ET29 on the front, that's a very small tyre
i run 235/40 semi slick, which i wider than a street 245 section tyre...


no way you could run an 8.5" wide ET29 on the front of a z4 without running a decent amount of camber, 225 tyre or not.... the actual Rim sits proud of the fender line at stock camber levels.
www.topwrapz.com - Multi Award Winning - Detailing | Vinyl Wrap | Paint Protection Film Specialists |

Mister T
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1073
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:18 am

Re: M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by Mister T » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:27 pm

219M with 235/40/18 Michelin Pilot Sport 3. Camber pins still fitted. Sits perfectly flush.

Image

A 225/35/19 would have more stretch and would also have a slightly smaller diameter.

User avatar
Beedub
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 11004
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:25 pm
Location: Sutton Coldfield

Re: M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by Beedub » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:43 pm

Mister T wrote:219M with 235/40/18 Michelin Pilot Sport 3. Camber pins still fitted. Sits perfectly flush.

Image

A 225/35/19 would have more stretch and would also have a slightly smaller diameter.
it may bolt on,.... i tested these with 3 different sets of tyres statically so nothing would get damaged, they contacted at numerous points under full compression.

now go and drive it hard and send a pic of the inner fender.... or infact send a pic of the inner fenders as they are now :thumbsup:
www.topwrapz.com - Multi Award Winning - Detailing | Vinyl Wrap | Paint Protection Film Specialists |

User avatar
Papa_Zee
Member
Member
Posts: 576
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:42 pm

M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by Papa_Zee » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:18 am

Help Needed!

I would like to conservatively space out the wheels on my MR.
I am running the stock 224s (i think they are perfect for now for the roadster) and would just like to know if 10mm all round can cause any rubbing issues? The car is not lowered at the moment as i am careful not to go overboard (yet) with the mods but still have a moderately wider stance. Thanks.

Papa
E89 35is

mmm-five
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 12722
Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:03 pm
Location: Liverpool
Contact:

M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by mmm-five » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:32 am

You 'should' be okay, but as with most things you won't really know until you try.

There were reports of some people running 19" CSLs who would get rubbing and other who would swear they had zero rubbing - same car, same wheels, same tyres (Michelin PS2 at the time).

Mine rubbed slightly over 'yumps' and on hard left corners - and I regularly wore away the arch liner.

I even get a little rear rubbing now (on OE 224Ms and 225/45r18 and 265/40r18) and I have 10mm spacers on the front to clear the Brembo brakes), but only if I have the coilovers on a softer setting (especially into the compression at Tiergarten/Hohenrain and Ex Muhle at the Ring). But if I crank it to full, the rubbing disappears - although I'd not set it that hard in the cold/wet. I'm planning on going back to 255/40r18 rears when they need replacing.
Trigger’s Z4MC
Some bits now over 163,000 miles, some less than 1,000 miles.
Individual Ruby Black, Individual extended champagne leather, plus many options

Image

mpm
Member
Member
Posts: 201
Joined: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:05 pm

M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by mpm » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:58 am

I run a 9.5 wide on the rear with ET22. Sits perfect imo

User avatar
mr wilks
Legend
Legend
Posts: 21897
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:02 pm
Location: Lancashire

M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by mr wilks » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:07 am

I ran my rear 224s with a 20mm spacer lowered on Eibachs.
Front no spacers but its no problem with up to 10mm on a stock suspension car though I preferred the enhanced stance of wider rear / narrower front.
Attachments
Screenshot_20190219-090727-01.jpeg
Screenshot_20190219-090727-01.jpeg (197.75 KiB) Viewed 667 times
3 ZMRs
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo

User avatar
BMWZ4MC
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 6342
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:24 pm
Location: Back in the sunshine

M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by BMWZ4MC » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:31 am

I used 12mm spacers without any rubbing from either 224s or CSLs both on stock suspension and later on Eibachs.

When I fitted KW Clubsports, I had to run 5mm spacers with my CSLs to clear the suspension at the front, and to reduce rubbing of the rear arch liners with big compressions. This caused rubbing of the near side front arch liner but only with full lock.

Interestingly, fitting an AP Racing BBK has increased the front track by a few millimetres and I no longer need spacers at the front to clear the suspension with the CSLs and I have no rubbing of the front arch liner, even at full lock. Without 5mm spacers, the rear still rubs slightly under load. This is because I’m using OEM discs with the AP callipers at the rear, so there has been no change in track there.

I’ve concluded that clearance across the width of the arches is marginal and that full lock brings the front tyres extremely close to the back of the brake cooling ducts in the arches. Any significant increase in wheel and tyre width or effective change in offset may cause rubbing, especially if the car is lowered.
Image
Z4MC - heavily fettled for track use
Lotus Exige - sensible daily driver on the mods slippery slope
Westfield SEiW - in hibernation
Modified RS4 Avant - back in Blighty
S2000 GT - gone

User avatar
Papa_Zee
Member
Member
Posts: 576
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:42 pm

M /// Max wheel offset question

Post by Papa_Zee » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:48 pm

mr wilks wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:07 am I ran my rear 224s with a 20mm spacer lowered on Eibachs.
Front no spacers but its no problem with up to 10mm on a stock suspension car though I preferred the enhanced stance of wider rear / narrower front.
Nice... so thats 10mm at the front and 20mm rear with no rubbing?
How much did you drop it by with the eibachs?
E89 35is

Post Reply