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Post by MrPT » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:59 pm

Clever pics of the boot drains. I’d look there. :rofl:

It’s a tricky time for valuation. If someone wants to pick up a low miler as an investment, they’ll always be prepared to pay a bit more just to execute and get it in the garage. This effect is not strong for the Z4M though, as you couldn’t really say it’s joined the ranks of the CSL etc yet. So I think £25k is more realistic if you actually want to sell it soon.
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Post by R60BBA » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:48 pm

Rob_v wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:52 pm Mine is on at £25,750
I’ve had some people say it’s worth £28k but as the experts - what do you think?
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Post by Rob_v » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:44 pm

Hi R60BBA

It’s 32k miles, 5 owners plus me
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Post by SiJar » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:38 am

It’s a nice car the only thing which goes against it in my opinion is the amount of owners. I paid £23.5k in Aug for my 38,000 Coupe so I think it’s a fair price and in similar condition as mine.
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Post by Angelus666 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm

The number of owners is no negative IMO. With cars like these, think of it as it's had 5+ honeymoon periods, where people will spend lots of money early on to do every little job to keep it perfect.....where as someone who has had it 10 years might not have the same desire to spend over and over on the same car.

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Post by srhutch » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:35 pm

6 owners over 12+ years isn’t that high really either.
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Post by Muckinonthesofa » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:00 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm The number of owners is no negative IMO. With cars like these, think of it as it's had 5+ honeymoon periods, where people will spend lots of money early on to do every little job to keep it perfect.....where as someone who has had it 10 years might not have the same desire to spend over and over on the same car.
When I was looking for mine I initially wanted low owners. I soon found out a lot have 4,5,6+ owners. I bought one with multiple previous owners in fantastic condition with great history from a very well respected dealer who specialised in them. Owners became irrelevant to me in the end.
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Post by Jembo » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:01 pm

If anyone’s looked at the EU market recently, some of their prices are way into UK E46 M3 territory, especially for the rarer colours... for instance here https://www.mobile.de/?s=Car&vc=Car&dam=0&fe!=EXPORT
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Post by Mr Tidy » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:26 pm

Yes, multiple owners seems very common on Z4s - probably because they aren't often a daily driver and so often they become impractical for various reasons, like parenthood, etc.

My M has had 7 and my 3.0Si had 5 when I bought it in 2016, but you just have to buy on condition and history. Just one or two would be great, but you could end up waiting ages!
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Post by Angelus666 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:55 pm

The euro prices are jumping right up. It looks like they are literally double the value of an equivalent UK car.

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Post by autobahner » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:08 pm

Same as my SLK55. Here approx. £18k, Germany €40k!

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Post by Mr Tidy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:35 pm

It seems a bit crazy given that for a long time new prices in the UK were higher than most European countries.

Maybe it's the British attitude that cars with 100K miles are pretty much scrap? Whereas most of us realise that just isn't true.
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Post by Argenta » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:11 am

Mr Tidy wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:35 pm Maybe it's the British attitude that cars with 100K miles are pretty much scrap? Whereas most of us realise that just isn't true.
I think that could be fair, also UK is a enclosed area with it's own little trends etc, EVERYONE'S raving about the M3 CSL and rather forgetting completely about the Z4M despite the similaritys, thats just one example.
Then of course RHD cars hardy sell 0.1% in LHD countries (or vice versa) so the markets will never mix and balance out.

Also media channels (TV, youtube etc) are mainly local around central Europe. Here in Scandinavia we're probably more multilingual and more people watch very british stuff like TopGear, Mr.JWW or SeenThruGlass. The Z4M's are also cheaper here than in Germany for instance. (Stupid) media today is a way too large factor for many things IMHO... :)

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Post by gerryp » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:42 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm The number of owners is no negative IMO. With cars like these, think of it as it's had 5+ honeymoon periods, where people will spend lots of money early on to do every little job to keep it perfect.....where as someone who has had it 10 years might not have the same desire to spend over and over on the same car.
Great point.

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Post by drummachine » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:51 pm

gerryp wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:42 pm
Angelus666 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:34 pm The number of owners is no negative IMO. With cars like these, think of it as it's had 5+ honeymoon periods, where people will spend lots of money early on to do every little job to keep it perfect.....where as someone who has had it 10 years might not have the same desire to spend over and over on the same car.

Great point.
Bang on. I've had mine 18 months, spent a bomb on it to get it exactly how i want it and in the next month or two it's going to need to go up for sale - sums up the comments

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