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Post by mr wilks » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:01 pm

just-right wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:44 pm
Argenta wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:04 pm Seems the milage on so many Z4M’s don’t really align with the general wear of the car?
I think there are quite a few out there with insufficient maintenance/care. Too many are owned for a short period, driven very hard (abused) and then sold on. This is not the sole reason and I don't think that is unique per country though. Plenty in the uk with a lot of wear on the seats.
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Prices have remained quite stationary during the winter. Are we expecting another hike come spring?
There was no hike last year & i can't see one this year , minimal number of buyers for many examples that are average & not priced to sell :wink: as ever the decent cars priced well sell no problem
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Post by mj2k » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:54 pm

srhutch wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 pm Haven't posted this up for a while.

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Interestingly (maybe!) I just popped mine into WBAC , it’s an 07 with 24k and Nav with 2 owners. They’re only offering me £11,250 which makes your extra 25k miles significantly good value for money!

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Post by mr wilks » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:35 pm

mj2k wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:54 pm
srhutch wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 pm Haven't posted this up for a while.

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Interestingly (maybe!) I just popped mine into WBAC , it’s an 07 with 24k and Nav with 2 owners. They’re only offering me £11,250 which makes your extra 25k miles significantly good value for money!

Must drive mine more this year
mj2k wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:54 pm
srhutch wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 pm Haven't posted this up for a while.

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Interestingly (maybe!) I just popped mine into WBAC , it’s an 07 with 24k and Nav with 2 owners. They’re only offering me £11,250 which makes your extra 25k miles significantly good value for money!

Must drive mine more this year
SiRh isnt using WBAC , whilst they are a good indicator across the broad range of everyday cars they are unlikely to be clued up as to where the ZM market is .
A 2 owner 07 24k car would most likely draw £16-17k from professional buyers & retail around £20k (maybe a touch more ) privately you would hope £18k-£19k could be achieved :?
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Post by mj2k » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:53 pm

mr wilks wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:35 pm
mj2k wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:54 pm
srhutch wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 pm Haven't posted this up for a while.

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SiRh isnt using WBAC , whilst they are a good indicator across the broad range of everyday cars they are unlikely to be clued up as to where the ZM market is .
A 2 owner 07 24k car would most likely draw £16-17k from professional buyers & retail around £20k (maybe a touch more ) privately you would hope £18k-£19k could be achieved :?
I know, sorry perhaps wasn’t clear in my post. It just surprised me that half the mileage only had a £2k affect on price with their model.

I know I paid a premium for mine at the time with a low mileage, knowing I’d be commuting in it for a while & then added 17k to it, if your pricing is accurate then it’s been the most sensible ‘non-sensible’ purchase I’ve made outside of watches.

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Post by Lower » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:22 am

I was offered £18k for mine as a trade in at the weekend against an M2 by an independent dealer.

Details as per my signature but with FSH (specialist) and 65k miles.
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Post by mr wilks » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:19 am

Lower wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:22 am I was offered £18k for mine as a trade in at the weekend against an M2 by an independent dealer.

Details as per my signature but with FSH (specialist) and 65k miles.
That doesn't sound enough for a 65k Mcoupe :?
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Post by pvr » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 am

mr wilks wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:19 am
Lower wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:22 am I was offered £18k for mine as a trade in at the weekend against an M2 by an independent dealer.

Details as per my signature but with FSH (specialist) and 65k miles.
That doesn't sound enough for a 65k Mcoupe :?
Mr Wilks preparing a £18001 offer as we speak :lol: :evil:
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Post by john-e89 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:52 am

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You are a bad bad man Paul...... :lol:
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Post by Lower » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:57 am

pvr wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 am
mr wilks wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:19 am
Lower wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:22 am I was offered £18k for mine as a trade in at the weekend against an M2 by an independent dealer.

Details as per my signature but with FSH (specialist) and 65k miles.
That doesn't sound enough for a 65k Mcoupe :?
Mr Wilks preparing a £18001 offer as we speak :lol: :evil:
I didn't think that was a bad trade in price. I was only expecting a max of £21k if i sold it privately.

Do you think they low balled me?
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Post by srhutch » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:46 pm

March price update. CAP price £500 up on last year.
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Post by Angelus666 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:52 pm

Lower wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:57 am
pvr wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 am
mr wilks wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:19 am That doesn't sound enough for a 65k Mcoupe :?
Mr Wilks preparing a £18001 offer as we speak :lol: :evil:
I didn't think that was a bad trade in price. I was only expecting a max of £21k if i sold it privately.

Do you think they low balled me?
I wouldn't say that's too bad. It's probably a £24k car at retail so a £6k margin seems fair enough really.....

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Post by mr wilks » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:30 pm

Angelus666 wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:52 pm
Lower wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:57 am
pvr wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 am Mr Wilks preparing a £18001 offer as we speak :lol: :evil:
I didn't think that was a bad trade in price. I was only expecting a max of £21k if i sold it privately.

Do you think they low balled me?
I wouldn't say that's too bad. It's probably a £24k car at retail so a £6k margin seems fair enough really.....
Without appearing negative i think £24k is unlikely to sell a 65k MC right now :? whether private or dealer :?
Prices currently seem deflated more than over the past 2 years & a great time to buy for those wanting a ZMC
Here are some ZMC examples that reflect where prices stand currently

Private 79k £18950 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=3
Indy 69k £19950 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=3
Indy 60k £20995 ( sepang too which usually carries a premium } https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=3
Indy 63k £20995
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=3
& a 95k AUC at £17500 from Sytner thats clearly priced to sell & factor in the warranty isnt a bad buy pro rata https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... New&page=2
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Post by mr wilks » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:44 pm

Lower wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:57 am
pvr wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 am
mr wilks wrote: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:19 am That doesn't sound enough for a 65k Mcoupe :?
Mr Wilks preparing a £18001 offer as we speak :lol: :evil:
I didn't think that was a bad trade in price. I was only expecting a max of £21k if i sold it privately.

Do you think they low balled me?
Bearing in mind the value of the car you are buying they have hit with you with a "bottom book " figure where they hope to make £ on both the M2 & the MC trade in , of course that's their business but if i was in your shoes id be wanting closer to £19250 /£19450 .
They'l spend £1k then offer it at £22k / £22500 ?

No idea how you plan to fund the M2 (Pcp /HP or buy ) but If i was heading out to get into a £48k Bmw from a main dealer i wouldn't start negotiations with a trade in :cry: hammer out a no PX deal first just to see where you can be , no reason why after a week pondering you can't then dangle the MC as a possible "hurdle" that's preventing you sealing the deal :wink: at which point you may only get offered £17k but what they give you for the car is irrelevant , its the ££ cost to change that matters :)
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Post by pvr » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:57 pm

There are two M2s at Vines, with "attractive" discounts so I was told when I was there a few weeks ago.

They don't seem to fly out of the showroom, so a healthy discount should be achievable on them.
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Post by mr wilks » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:55 pm

Engine bay needs a little spruce :oops: but certainly well priced for a later year ZMC / 2008 57 plate 69k in carbon black with 2 tone individual trim , decent spec private sale asking £18450 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-BMW-Z4M ... SwehVajtx2

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