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Does your Z4M S54 suffer from the engine hesitation from idle?

Yes, and I'd like it fixed
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It did, but it's fixed
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Yes, but it doesn't bother me
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Yes, but it only happens once in a blue moon
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No, I've never had this happen
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Post by dgm » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:51 pm

My car suffered periodically from the hesitation but it wasn't that often and I learned to drive round it. After two O2 sensors were replaced under warranty the hesitation has completely gone. Who knows if this is a cure but worth considering anyway.
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Post by CaffeineFiend » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:36 am

Hi all,

I bought my Z4MC approx 12 months ago and experienced from day 1 the hesitation and idling issues described here. After spending a reasonable amount of money with an independent BMW specialist (who as it turns out is okay with standard BMWs but has no clue of how to work with S54 M cars) I was still experiencing this issue and getting quite frustrated with it.

With the fine work and how-to info of the good folk here I managed to resolve it myself by freeing up the ICV. The car now runs like an absolute dream. No hesitation. Idle sits like a rock on 900 RPM.

Thanks to those who give their time and expertise here. My car now runs like it should! :)

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Post by samZ4M » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:28 pm

Noticed an issue with me M, wondering if it's this.

When cold, the car is hessitant until 3k, and engine braking is very aggressive (it slows down very quickly when not on gas). I know it's thick oil, but I don't remember it doing this before the last few weeks. It's also due an I2 in 3k.

It's under warranty, and I'm tempted to throw it in for it's service earlier along with this issue.

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Post by JAD » Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:47 pm

I've started to note something similar to this on mine. 59k Roadster, driven a few K per year as a weekend toy. Also runs a GruppeM filter.

It starts everytime and doesn't waiver from 900 rpm on idle (no hunting). However, I find if I take my foot off the pedal around town, it will dip below 900 revs and then return. It has never stalled on me (touch wood) but if I am in, say, second gear and go WOT from 1.5k revs I can make the car jump quite violently as it seems to "catch up with" my throttle input.

From reading the (excellent!) info in this thread, this sounds like a TPS issue, so possibly should be my first port of call?

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Post by craig3.2 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:02 am

I neever had this issue with mine(posted as such on this thread,back in 2012),but it started doing it and was spoiling the otherwise excellent driving experience a wee bit...
So I took it to my BMW Indy las week,and asked him to remove and then clean the Idle control valve, which I can safely say has cured the issues I was having with hesitation/spluttering at upto about 3k rpm,as well as eractic idling.

The car is now back to driving as good as it always did,so if anyone else is having these issues,worth cleaning the icv first :thumbsup:
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Post by JAD » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:39 pm

craig3.2 wrote:I neever had this issue with mine(posted as such on this thread,back in 2012),but it started doing it and was spoiling the otherwise excellent driving experience a wee bit...
So I took it to my BMW Indy las week,and asked him to remove and then clean the Idle control valve, which I can safely say has cured the issues I was having with hesitation/spluttering at upto about 3k rpm,as well as eractic idling.

The car is now back to driving as good as it always did,so if anyone else is having these issues,worth cleaning the icv first :thumbsup:
Thanks for the input, Craig. I've decided to spend a bit of time on preventative maintenance and love for mine, so have ordered a new MAF, TPSx2 and will clean the ICV while I have the car apart. Means it's given a nice new bill of health!

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Post by ratty64 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:27 pm

Resurrecting an old thread has anyone got to the bottom of the revs at idle issue? My car feels like it's about to stall when I depress the clutch and then bounces back to idle

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Post by Bill10 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:14 pm

No probs with mine but saw many with the problem when looking for one to buy.
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Post by Adam D » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:09 pm

ratty64 wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:27 pm
Resurrecting an old thread has anyone got to the bottom of the revs at idle issue? My car feels like it's about to stall when I depress the clutch and then bounces back to idle
One of these will be the culprit, ordered by what I would do/check/replace first.

Idle control valve. This should open and close freely to allow enough air to bypass the closed throttle flaps to keep the engine idling correctly. They gunge up and need periodic cleaning, due to their location (under the big air plenum) this seldom happens. You could try taking the top pipe off and generously spray carb cleaner down it a few times over a week or so, or remove the air plenum to then remove it and clean it up properly or replace with a new one. Whilst off you can also clean the throttle bodies. A few guides exist on the web on how to do this with pictures.

Throttle position sensors; one of the front of the the throttle butterfly bar (next to oil canister lid) and another the throttle actuator (again under the air plenum) - they are simple potentiometers and just wear out. I changed both but thinking back I suspect cleaning the idle valve made the biggest difference.

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Post by enzotieppo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:59 pm

Hi !

Read all over the 24 pages here.

Just bought a 2007 z4m with 11.000 Km and this thing is happening.

There´s only 5 in my country and no ones knows how to fix it. I´ll just buy everything you guys mentioned here and i´ll do it by myself. By the way, thanks for sharing all the information and all the work you did.

I didnt see any links for the parts, can any of you confirm it?

This is the TPS sensor? (I need two of these, right?)

https://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/pro ... 40383.html

Idle Control Valve

https://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/pro ... 33090.html

Intake Camshaft Sensor

https://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/pro ... 39171.html

Throttle actuator

https://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/pro ... 40537.html

Thanks again!
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Post by Spaniarduk » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:46 pm

enzotieppo wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:59 pm
Hi !


Idle Control Valve

https://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/pro ... 40537.html
That link is for a throttle actuator :poke: :D

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Post by BMWZ4MC » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:19 am

Hi enzotieppo. Well done for choosing the Z4M. Where are you based? You should introduce yourself in the newbies forum and post some pics :thumbsup:
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Post by enzotieppo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:32 pm

Sure !

I´ll do that, thanks for the tip.

I´m in Brazil, we have here 5 roadsters and another 6-7 coupes z4m.

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Post by enzotieppo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:12 pm

Spaniarduk wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:46 pm
That link is for a throttle actuator
https://parts.bmwofsouthatlanta.com/pro ... 33090.html

Sorry... Here is !

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Post by 620turbo » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:59 pm

Bump. Good thread. My car is doing this badly again after being laid up for a while.

I will remove the idle control valve when I get a chance and clean it or quite possibly just replace the poxy thing.

There is something very different between the Z4M and E46 M3 S54 implementations in this respect because E46 M3 does not do this.

I know the engine management systems are different and it must be something related to the different programmes which are running between the two cars in my opinion.

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