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- Beemingallover
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Shell have now replied correctly to my original query-
"My apologies for the misunderstanding and thank you for your follow up message.
You are correct that central fuel terminals like Bramhall supply many different branded service stations. Before the fuel is exported from the terminal to be taken to various service stations by tanker, different additives are added depending on who will be selling the fuel. These additives are added in pipes prior to the fuel going into the tanker. Therefore, differentiation is derived from Shell’s proprietary additives, which are added at dose rates that underpin and substantiate our claims.
For example, Shell V-Power fuel is boosted with ingredients that are designed to clean and protect engines. V-Power fuel contains molecules that target dirt and help restore engine cleanliness by removing deposits that have already formed, as well as friction reducing molecules that help reduce friction in critical parts of vehicle engines.
I hope that this helps answer your question and thanks again for getting in touch."
"My apologies for the misunderstanding and thank you for your follow up message.
You are correct that central fuel terminals like Bramhall supply many different branded service stations. Before the fuel is exported from the terminal to be taken to various service stations by tanker, different additives are added depending on who will be selling the fuel. These additives are added in pipes prior to the fuel going into the tanker. Therefore, differentiation is derived from Shell’s proprietary additives, which are added at dose rates that underpin and substantiate our claims.
For example, Shell V-Power fuel is boosted with ingredients that are designed to clean and protect engines. V-Power fuel contains molecules that target dirt and help restore engine cleanliness by removing deposits that have already formed, as well as friction reducing molecules that help reduce friction in critical parts of vehicle engines.
I hope that this helps answer your question and thanks again for getting in touch."
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Struggling with this,Beemingallover wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:47 am as well as friction reducing molecules that help reduce friction in critical parts of vehicle engines.
Which part of the engine would the petrol lubricate
Fuel pump and the on off valve of the injectors but can’t think of anywhere other than that you have petrol, as it would dilute the lub oil.
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Combustion? Valves?PDJ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:26 amStruggling with this,Beemingallover wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:47 am as well as friction reducing molecules that help reduce friction in critical parts of vehicle engines.
Which part of the engine would the petrol lubricate
Fuel pump and the on off valve of the injectors but can’t think of anywhere other than that you have petrol, as it would dilute the lub oil.
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Combustion is a flash and bang no lub there
Valves are a hardened face seat valve stems are steel in a bronze type bush none or little lube required and if you use super market fuel the valves don’t seize up and the valve stems are sealed from the lub oil in the head, when these wear the engine smokes and uses oil
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General rule of thumb:
1. Both fuels are good, offering 99 RON.
2. V-Power provides a smoother engine response (eg idle, power delivery etc) than Momentum.
3. Turbocharged cars mostly respond better to Momentum due to its higher alcohol mix (which provides better latent heat of vaporisation). Turbocharged owners often claim that Momentum therefore provides more low end kick than V-Power.
4. V-Power is ultimately better than Momentum as it maintains 99 RON but also has patented cleaning additives which promote engine health and longevity.
1. Both fuels are good, offering 99 RON.
2. V-Power provides a smoother engine response (eg idle, power delivery etc) than Momentum.
3. Turbocharged cars mostly respond better to Momentum due to its higher alcohol mix (which provides better latent heat of vaporisation). Turbocharged owners often claim that Momentum therefore provides more low end kick than V-Power.
4. V-Power is ultimately better than Momentum as it maintains 99 RON but also has patented cleaning additives which promote engine health and longevity.
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I’m pretty sure that momentum also has its own engine cleaning propertiesR60BBA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:22 pm General rule of thumb:
1. Both fuels are good, offering 99 RON.
2. V-Power provides a smoother engine response (eg idle, power delivery etc) than Momentum.
3. Turbocharged cars mostly respond better to Momentum due to its higher alcohol mix (which provides better latent heat of vaporisation). Turbocharged owners often claim that Momentum therefore provides more low end kick than V-Power.
4. V-Power is ultimately better than Momentum as it maintains 99 RON but also has patented cleaning additives which promote engine health and longevity.
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You don’t say.Smartbear wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:36 pmI’m pretty sure that momentum also has its own engine cleaning propertiesR60BBA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:22 pm General rule of thumb:
1. Both fuels are good, offering 99 RON.
2. V-Power provides a smoother engine response (eg idle, power delivery etc) than Momentum.
3. Turbocharged cars mostly respond better to Momentum due to its higher alcohol mix (which provides better latent heat of vaporisation). Turbocharged owners often claim that Momentum therefore provides more low end kick than V-Power.
4. V-Power is ultimately better than Momentum as it maintains 99 RON but also has patented cleaning additives which promote engine health and longevity.
Rob
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It was mapped both times, the fuel allowed it to be mapped differently the second time. If I ran 95ron on the second map it would have pinked at high revs.
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Exactly so what I wrote stands then. Unlike the case of my Fiat, just changing fuel would not give you more power, instead lesser fuel would maybe harm the engine, as would filling her up with water.
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You only list v-power as having engine cleaning properties, i replied that momentum fuel also incorporates them.R60BBA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:41 pmYou don’t say.Smartbear wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:36 pmI’m pretty sure that momentum also has its own engine cleaning propertiesR60BBA wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:22 pm General rule of thumb:
1. Both fuels are good, offering 99 RON.
2. V-Power provides a smoother engine response (eg idle, power delivery etc) than Momentum.
3. Turbocharged cars mostly respond better to Momentum due to its higher alcohol mix (which provides better latent heat of vaporisation). Turbocharged owners often claim that Momentum therefore provides more low end kick than V-Power.
4. V-Power is ultimately better than Momentum as it maintains 99 RON but also has patented cleaning additives which promote engine health and longevity.
Rob
I don’t understand your reply?
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Both have cleaning additives but V-Power is better in this department; the Millbrook Report confirms this.
Shell have also placed more emphasis on this by patenting their formula which I believe is now called Dynaflex Technology.
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