R60BBA wrote:
Red stuff.
I’m not surprised your unimpressed with EBC pads if all you’ve ever used is RedStuff.
I know some people don’t like EBC, as they’re a ‘cheap’ pad, but there are also plenty of people who are happy with them.
I’ve been through Ferodo DS2000, DS2500, DS3000, Pagid RS14, Pagid RS42, and Pagid RS29 - of all of those I prefer the feel of the RS14.
However, a friend mentioned EBC pads a long time ago, and I bought a set to replace the expensive RS14s I was running (at about 1 set every 2 track days) in the M5...initially only for the cost saving if they were any good (averaging about a track day a month was getting expensive of pads/discs/tyres).
Since then I’ve had about 20 sets of EBC pads, but the ‘lowest’ spec I’ve used have been Yellowstuff...as road & track pads on a 1700kg e34 M5. Never had any fading, crumbling, detachment, or anything else that other people have reported on the internet.
I had Yellowstuff on the Z4MC, and when I went to order my next set (about 4 trackdays and 20,000 miles later) it was suggested that I give their new formula Bluestuff NDX pads a try.
I did, and used them for the next 6 years and 100,000 miles (about 4 track days a year, and 2-3 Ring trips of 20-40 laps). Again never had a problem.
If I can’t quickly get a set (usually when I think I have a spare set, but don’t or can’t find them) then my spanner monkey has a contact at Pagid and fits RS29s for me, but they’re very dusty, squeal, and don’t last as long...and about £500 for a 4 wheel set.
I use them for a couple of reasons:
- they’re good enough for my use (and my braking technique - they may not suit your driving/braking style)
- they last about about twice as long as RS29
- they retail for less than half what the equapivalent Pagid RS pad sells for
- i get a 40% discount from EBC as a perk for being a marshal (so about £120 for a 4 wheel set)
Although I am planning on trying some PF.11 pads when I get a chance...after the Orangestuff I’ve got in the Porsche callipers die/are killed