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Post by srhutch » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:30 pm

I need to do mine soon Jem so will be interested to know where you go and the cost.
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Post by Bodyboarder » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:57 am

Can you possible let me know if you are using b6 or b8 shocks ? Have the eibach springs already and wanted to make it a complete b12 kit .

How’s the ride ? Any more feed back on it ?

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Post by Jembo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:59 am

Bodyboarder wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:57 am Can you possible let me know if you are using b6 or b8 shocks ? Have the eibach springs already and wanted to make it a complete b12 kit .

How’s the ride ? Any more feed back on it ?

Thanks :thumbsup:
Am pretty sure the B12 kit uses B6 shocks, though as always the inter web chatter in some places say this kit uses the innards of the B8’s. Don’t know what to believe sometimes!!!!!
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Post by Jembo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:16 am

Well, it’s E46 M3 CSL road spec setup day today... fingers x doesn’t turn out to be a pile of poo

As you’ll see from the pics, a bit tight, backstreet style though couple of interesting things in the car park, plus Martyn & frndz BM Brands lap times.

Anyone want to guess what the black car in the 3rd picture is... PVR would guess straight away
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Post by bmwaddict » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:18 am

Jembo wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:59 am
Bodyboarder wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:57 am Can you possible let me know if you are using b6 or b8 shocks ? Have the eibach springs already and wanted to make it a complete b12 kit .

How’s the ride ? Any more feed back on it ?

Thanks :thumbsup:
Am pretty sure the B12 kit uses B6 shocks, though as always the inter web chatter in some places say this kit uses the innards of the B8’s. Don’t know what to believe sometimes!!!!!
The B12 comes with B8s for non M models, B6s for the M, as they don't make B8s for the Z4M for some reason.
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Post by Jembo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:46 pm

So... we decided not to pull the camber pins for more adjustment - Martyn recommended to try the other E46 CSL settings first, then see how got on, though everything else front & rear fully set.

First proper impressions with the full alignment + RTAB/L + full Billy kit.
- straight ahead composure, noticed it was far more wanting to keep centred
- bumps, better at soaking up than stock, though is no Merc cruiser, so you can still feel them, but deffo more damped
- cornering... with all the above, my initial issues have... disappeared, big time
- spring rates & height: looks pretty similar to stock height wise, rear feels softer, nose doesn’t dive anywhere near as much
- turn in: much better, though not tested in anger
- motorway cruising: perfect
- uneven surface composure: much better, but this kinda cars not for this

All in all, a very expensive couple of weeks, though now very happy
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Post by bmwaddict » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:07 pm

Glad you're happy Jem, sounds like a big improvement overall which is great, just make sure you don't leave the bill lying around for the wife to find!
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Post by Jembo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:23 pm

bmwaddict wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:07 pm Glad you're happy Jem, sounds like a big improvement overall which is great, just make sure you don't leave the bill lying around for the wife to find!
Small typo Dan

... BILLS...
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Post by Bodyboarder » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:43 pm

Any more updates on the handling / ride comfort on you’re new setup ?

Also did you renew the front top mounts ? If so with what ? And if not , what was the age / mileage on them ?

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Post by Jembo » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:34 am

Bodyboarder wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:43 pm Any more updates on the handling / ride comfort on you’re new setup ?

Also did you renew the front top mounts ? If so with what ? And if not , what was the age / mileage on them ?

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Held off a bit before posting more, as doesn’t get driven too much. So

- Front Top mounts. It’s the rears that are of pants design, mine were just fine & car is on 60k. It hasn’t had a hard life, mainly motorway miles & it shows.
- Bump stops: I need to research this more as despite only lowering 20mm, I’ve had 4 hits which don’t feel good, otherwise ride is noticeably improved at the rear, front doesn’t dive as much
- Been noticing that since going for the revised M3 CSL geometry, the Steering while mild cornering on slightly banked carriageways, either left or right .... I don’t need to make any turn adjustments, car seems to just follow the road with wheel straight ahead, as if it knows there’s a slight bend
- rear, as above, is like night & day with both RTAL’s & RTAB’s.... geo & billy kit nodoubt help

In all that rain yesterday, car felt really good, no skittishness, no wandering, no sliding, no aquaplaning (given tyre size was surprised) although I wasn’t trying... instead was more concerned about the I must get in front lane changer swervers who were out in real force with the bit between their teeth.

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Post by Bodyboarder » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:11 pm

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Thank you Jembo

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Post by Muckinonthesofa » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:18 am

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- Bump stops: I need to research this more as despite only lowering 20mm, I’ve had 4 hits which don’t feel good, otherwise ride is noticeably improved at the rear, front doesn’t dive as much

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Did you find out about the bump stops? I understand the front dampers have built in bump stops and some recommend removing the standard items?
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Post by Jembo » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:34 am

Regret not had the time yet, though on the list. So far on the 2 times she’s been out I’ve been using motorbike eyes... ie looking out for potholes & drain covers, so haven’t had a repeat of those early experiences.

I meant to cut down the OEM bump stops when I changed the wheels, though again just didn’t have time...

However, the more I read seems they have bump stops built in & OEM should be thrown away... so looking to research further
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Post by Muckinonthesofa » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:56 am

Jembo wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:34 am Regret not had the time yet, though on the list. So far on the 2 times she’s been out I’ve been using motorbike eyes... ie looking out for potholes & drain covers, so haven’t had a repeat of those early experiences.

I meant to cut down the OEM bump stops when I changed the wheels, though again just didn’t have time...
No problem Jembo, I was wondering if you'd had the same advice as me.

My research and the advice I received was to remove the original bump stops on the front due to the Bilstein dampers having internal bump stops. It's a lot less crashy. :thumbsup:
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