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Post by Simon 3.2M » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:17 pm

TC off, sport button on, this thing is a monster!!
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Post by mr wilks » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:25 pm

TC off :cry: you must be one gifted driver :wink: at no point i ever driven any of my Zs & felt the need to turn that off :?
Sport button most definitely always on :evil: as well as countless spirited UK miles Ive covered hundreds of Z///Miles at full chatt through the Normandy countryside with 6-7 other M cars often pushing to the edge of safe speed for car & driver so i know what the car is capable of & pretty sure none of the others drive with it off .
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Post by Truth » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:45 pm

TC off and sport button off gives me better throttle response. Find with the sport button on I get less feel and it just want to go 100% throttle when only putting x amount on. Though only drive mine in the dry unless I get caught out.
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Post by rally-chris » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:04 pm

Sounds like a recipe for changing tyres often...
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:53 pm

On the M3 I turn Traction Control off but then don’t turn Sport on.

I find TC to be very sharp, unlike the modern Beemers where it kicks in progressively. At times I feel like TC can actually upset the balance of the car because of its ‘jolt like’ nature. (Plus I squeam for my subframe every time it jolts). The LSD is pretty good also, the car is much easier to control on the limit than the Z4 Si Coupe I find.

As with Sport Mode, when turned on the throttle is overly sensitive. Perhaps on track it would be beneficial but I haven’t really seen it’s benefits in normal city driving or B road driving for that matter.

I wonder how the Z4M’s platform compares with the E46M’s.
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Post by Bodyboarder » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:16 pm

The TC is utterly terrible on these cars in my opinion.... doesn’t let you have any slip angle at all , cuts in very sharply and is way to sensitive! With it off you can safely have a bit of low speed slides out of roundabouts and it’s one of the biggest joys of RWD motoring ! I also dislike the sport button... no throttle control . I’m getting the csl TC put on mine and hoping this replicated the M mode on my old e92 m3 , which was fantastic

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Post by bradz » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:24 pm

TC off every time, far too sensitive when driven properly. Get M-Track mode programmed its the perfect compromise.
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Post by Tyreman » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:30 pm

Big boy pants on and TC off :D

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Post by Nash3vans » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:59 pm

Tc off when its raining = Funtime :D
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Post by Mr Tidy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:02 pm

I know this is on the M specific section and I've got a 3.0Si, but it's interesting to read that a few people don't like the Sport setting because I tried it a few times recently and didn't think it was an improvement.

And I've noticed a few times when getting out of a side road in a hurry the TC cuts in really abruptly, which isn't always helpful! Looks like I need to try it with TC off. :lol:
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:26 pm

Mr Tidy wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:02 pm I know this is on the M specific section and I've got a 3.0Si, but it's interesting to read that a few people don't like the Sport setting because I tried it a few times recently and didn't think it was an improvement.

And I've noticed a few times when getting out of a side road in a hurry the TC cuts in really abruptly, which isn't always helpful! Looks like I need to try it with TC off. :lol:
It’s not just the M’s buddy, I never used Sport in the Si as I found the intake noise when pulling off was overly loud.
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:27 pm

bradz wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:24 pm TC off every time, far too sensitive when driven properly. Get M-Track mode programmed its the perfect compromise.
How does one accomplish this :?
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Post by Mangozac » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:48 pm

I highly recommend anybody complaining about the intrusiveness of the traction control gets M Track Mode enabled. It transforms the car!

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Post by ph001 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:09 pm

I find the DSC in the E46 M3 to be very subtle and not at all intrusive. Never had any jerky behaviour from it at all. I wonder if the tyre choice makes it respond differently? It doesn’t allow any slip angle admittedly though and as said M-track coding is the way to go for that.

As the the 3.0Si, the beauty of the stability control on this is thst you can disable traction control whilst leaving dsc enabled (very similar to m-track mode) with just a short press on the button. Again, I find it to be very nicely judged and never gets in the way of having a lot of fun.
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Post by R60BBA » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:13 pm

ph001 wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:09 pm I find the DSC in the E46 M3 to be very subtle and not at all intrusive. Never had any jerky behaviour from it at all. I wonder if the tyre choice makes it respond differently? It doesn’t allow any slip angle admittedly though and as said M-track coding is the way to go for that.

As the the 3.0Si, the beauty of the stability control on this is thst you can disable traction control whilst leaving dsc enabled (very similar to m-track mode) with just a short press on the button. Again, I find it to be very nicely judged and never gets in the way of having a lot of fun.
Yeah man, my M3 is proper jerky under full throttle if the car breaks traction.

It was worse on my Contis (which I just replaced as they were dud). However I just put PS4S on there yesterday and although it’s harder for TC to kick in, on uneven surfaces it kicks in sharp and makes the Car jerk before allowing it to accelerate.

For that reason I turn it off every time I get into the car.
Current: 2002 E46 M3
Current: 2004 R53 Cooper S
Current: 2005 997 Carrera S
Gone: 1998 E31 840Ci Sport
Gone: 2007 Z4 E86 3.0Si Sport
Gone: 2001 Z3 E36/7 2.2i San Remo Individual
Gone: 2015 F21 116d M Sport
Gone: 2012 A3 Sportback 1.2TFSI

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