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Post by bmwaddict » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:49 pm

Bodyboarder wrote: โ†‘Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:26 pm So does anyone know how many z4mcโ€™s are in the uk ?
Originally something like 580 I believe.
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Post by Beedub » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:28 pm

This site is saying my car is one of 59 silver RHD z4mr in the world.... surely thats not right.
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Post by Mr Tidy » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:32 pm

That doesn't seem right - there are 51 Titan Silver MRs in the UK on the database tony put together! :o
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Post by Gazza51 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:35 pm

mad4slalom wrote: โ†‘Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:17 pm
Gazza51 wrote: โ†‘Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:07 pm Mine is 1 of 4 ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
that is agarage full of appeciating assets ๐Ÿ‘wot a man cave to chill in and admire ๐Ÿ˜
Thatโ€™s not what I meant but I see your point ๐Ÿ˜

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Post by Gazza51 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:42 pm

Jembo wrote: โ†‘Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:16 pm
Gazza51 wrote: โ†‘Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:07 pm Mine is 1 of 4 ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
1 of 4 what, as mine is 1 of 1 depending on what you choose.

Most strange of all is the amount of new Coupeโ€™s joining the forum, seems a real resurgence, father Taz must be proud
1 of 4 UK RHD Carbon Black, Champagne, Coupe, Carbon dash

Could be even less as it doesnโ€™t specify 3.0 or ///M
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Post by Coppins999 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:08 pm

I know the coupe version of the Z3M is worth a lot more than the roadster and that on a like for like basis a Z4MC is worth a bit more than a Z4MR but do people think this will continue as per the Z3M ?

My thinking is as follows. On the plus side for the coupe is that the shape is more unusual as there were no small engined versions of the coupe so the shape makes it stand out. Also the coupe is seen as more 'hardcore' for the track and has a modicum of racecar pedigree.

On the other hand the Z4MC is no rarer than the Z4MR (592 v 614 produced) whereas the Z3M coupe was a lot rarer (165 v 997 according to wikipedia for RHD in Europe).

So in the long run do we think the coupe v roadster values will diverge as much as the Z3M values did ?

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Post by Bodyboarder » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:39 pm

In a word ....no :rofl:

I think whatever happens the z4mc will always be 30% higher than the roadster but canโ€™t see the coupes getting to where the z3mc are in value .... but Iโ€™m pretty confident that theyโ€™re prices will hold firm and go up a bit as time goes on

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Post by Bing » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:35 pm

Beedub wrote: โ†‘Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:28 pm This site is saying my car is one of 59 silver RHD z4mr in the world.... surely thats not right.
The LHD/RHD can have quite an effect - mine is saying 1/33 in the world with RHD selected, but 1/109 irrespective of which hand drive it is, with red leather. It's 1/120 silver/grey metallic MRs worldwide.
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Post by tonyz4c » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:05 pm

hello

I have grabbed all informations from online vin decoder and as you have probably noticed, none of them provide the country of origin
So these countries values i'm using are results of filters i'm applying on options related to each vin
RHD is the "easiest" as there are few markets.
I have also used "M registry" web site to check for some vins registered by their owners on specific countries

Looking at these vins options, i have tried to search for common extra options and end up with rules like
if RetailOverSea, EngineLowerQualityFuel, CarIdentityVisible, OnBoardEnglish, LanguageEnglish, KilometerSpeed
=> south africa
if RetailOverSea, RadioOceania, OnBoardEnglish, LanguageEnglish, KilometerSpeed,
=> New Zeland
...

As you can see those filters are "hand made" so i'm supposing it's the reason why you notice some differences between my site and the other one.

The only thing you can be sure of it's the total number as each category of vehicule has his own vin range number :wink:
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Post by Gazza51 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:44 pm

Coppins999 wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:08 pm I know the coupe version of the Z3M is worth a lot more than the roadster and that on a like for like basis a Z4MC is worth a bit more than a Z4MR but do people think this will continue as per the Z3M ?

On the other hand the Z4MC is no rarer than the Z4MR (592 v 614 produced) whereas the Z3M coupe was a lot rarer (165 v 997 according to wikipedia for RHD in Europe).

So in the long run do we think the coupe v roadster values will diverge as much as the Z3M values did ?
According to the Z3MC Forum - Total Z3MCs sold in the UK 609. (S50 492, S54 117)

The S54 Z3MR totals only 73 but the values are still lower than the Coupe.

I think over time the Z4MC prices will rise.
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Post by mad4slalom » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:57 pm

Coppins999 wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:08 pm I know the coupe version of the Z3M is worth a lot more than the roadster and that on a like for like basis a Z4MC is worth a bit more than a Z4MR but do people think this will continue as per the Z3M ?

My thinking is as follows. On the plus side for the coupe is that the shape is more unusual as there were no small engined versions of the coupe so the shape makes it stand out. Also the coupe is seen as more 'hardcore' for the track and has a modicum of racecar pedigree.

On the other hand the Z4MC is no rarer than the Z4MR (592 v 614 produced) whereas the Z3M coupe was a lot rarer (165 v 997 according to wikipedia for RHD in Europe).

So in the long run do we think the coupe v roadster values will diverge as much as the Z3M values did ?
Good points , i did see a 2.8 version of the z3 coupe for sale once , withouth twin tailpipes, was this called the orinoco ? Dont know if it was available everywhere or just califonia possibly

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Post by Mr Tidy » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:15 pm

mad4slalom wrote: โ†‘Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:57 pm Good points , i did see a 2.8 version of the z3 coupe for sale once , withouth twin tailpipes, was this called the orinoco ? Dont know if it was available everywhere or just califonia possibly
I'm sure a 2.8 version of the Z3 Coupe was sold in Europe - but sadly never in the UK. :(
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Post by Joneeboy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:49 pm

Mines come up as 1 of 6 in the world...
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Post by Joneeboy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:52 pm

Joneeboy wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:49 pm Mines come up as 1 of 6 in the world...
Jem's is in the middle and Shaun's has the aftermarket wheels...

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Post by mad4slalom » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:57 pm

Joneeboy wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:52 pm
Joneeboy wrote: โ†‘Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:49 pm Mines come up as 1 of 6 in the world...
Jem's is in the middle and Shaun's has the aftermarket wheels...
Stunning picture ๐Ÿ‘

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