Anyone know this Blue Z4MR?

[petrolhead88]

After selling my M Roadster a couple of years back, I'm considering getting back into one and came across this:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=1

Apparently it's been in the owners club under it's previous private reg S777 ***.

Also, how hard would it be for me to source OEM wheels to replace the BBS ones? I can't find any on eBay at the moment.

Hoping to rejoin the fold soon

[woolybear]

I’m pretty sure:
That car has been floating around & for sale at a Dealers, for months and months..
Mr Wilkes, might know more detail??

Good luck with the search

[Simon 3.2M]

Ex forum car I believe - was up at £13500 when I was looking. Apparently it's a very good car and it has the somewhat desireable Gruppe M induction kit.

[Bodyboarder]

Didn’t this also used to have ap brakes on ? Swear I remember seeing it with some on?

[mr wilks]

It is indeed a ex forum car , the dealer has had it over a year for no other reason than greed & mistiming the seasonal price swing , set off last summer asking £16k then dropped it to £14k November time then all winter it sat at £11995 before hiking the ask again this spring .
The wheels & mudflaps are killing it , but easy to remedy & the GruppeM is genuinely a worthwhile additio ( worth £600 all day long if you weren't keen)
By all accounts the previous owner "Monksdill" treat the car very well so i would buy without hesitation , i actually offered the guy £11250 in January , he refused but i'm pretty sure he paid under £11k when he took it as trade in last year

[rally-chris]

There may still be a set of original 224 alloys for sale on the forum?

[srhutch]

It is indeed a ex forum car , the dealer has had it over a year for no other reason than greed & mistiming the seasonal price swing , set off last summer asking £16k then dropped it to £14k November time then all winter it sat at £11995 before hiking the ask again this spring .
The wheels & mudflaps are killing it , but easy to remedy & the GruppeM is genuinely a worthwhile additio ( worth £600 all day long if you weren't keen)
By all accounts the previous owner "Monksdill" treat the car very well so i would buy without hesitation , i actually offered the guy £11250 in January , he refused but i'm pretty sure he paid under £11k when he took it as trade in last year

Ad he has been offered cash for the GruppeM.

[srhutch]

There may still be a set of original 224 alloys for sale on the forum?

If there isn’t at the minute they often pop up.

[petrolhead88]

Thanks guys! Amazing information, what a valuable resource this forum is.
I’ll view it tomorrow and see how it goes.

[woolybear]

Thanks guys! Amazing information, what a valuable resource this forum is.
I’ll view it tomorrow and see how it goes.

Hmm.
Best of luck..
Maybe, if your happy with it - a cheeky bid of circa £10,750 / £10,500 buys her
You sell on the GruppeM and, hey presto - a Z4MR for circa £10k ish!

Driving home, you might think

[petrolhead88]

The wheels & mudflaps are killing it , but easy to remedy & the GruppeM is genuinely a worthwhile additio ( worth £600 all day long if you weren't keen)

Are the mud flaps easy to remove? Is it a simple case of removal or do they need to be replaced by a different piece of trim?

[mr wilks]

The wheels & mudflaps are killing it , but easy to remedy & the GruppeM is genuinely a worthwhile additio ( worth £600 all day long if you weren't keen)

Are the mud flaps easy to remove? Is it a simple case of removal or do they need to be replaced by a different piece of trim?

The flaps should come off leaving no paint issues that a good clean & polish won't remove .
If you do decide the car is for you then id play dumb on the Gruppe & make it clear the wheels are a disappointment , if you get the car for £11k then id say you bought well . the BBS 18s will probably fetch around £450-£500 maybe a bit more on Ebay

[raiets]

Is it just me, or is it lowered? Maybe just the sidewall ratio and angle of the photographs....

The interior matts are also, an acquired taste.

More signs that it has at least been owned by an enthusiast and hopefully looked after the car, kept it on proper matching tyres, serviced it appropriately, etc.

[Darren.Gregory]

The Car was loved and owned by my friend, he had it several years and spent a bit of money on it, it has been lowered polished most weekends and taken off the road in the winter, only sold as he moved into a boxter, I think they gave him around £10500 for it last summer I cant think of any problems with it, I drove it a few times and was toying with buying it but went the boxter way

[petrolhead88]

A quick update, I went to see the car today.

A disappointing trip overall. The car was described as mint and unmarked by the dealer over the phone except for one small scuff on the bumper.

Turns out there were 2 scuffs on the bumper, a ding and chip on the rear quarter, lacquer peel on the front and light scratches all over the car.

It’s nothing a detail and smart repair wouldn’t solve in fairness.

Mechanically the car drove straight although the brakes felt very spongy. The tyres are Michelin PSS but they struggled for grip on a tight roundabout even without pushing it. Maybe it could benefit from a geometry reset.

I offered £11k based on the above issues and the fact I’d end up spending £500 at least.

The dealer was quite abrupt and said there was no negotiation to be had, I could either buy at £11500 or leave.
He actually claimed he bought the car for £11500.

Wasted 5 hours in the end which is a shame.

I think I will stick to private sales or main dealers from now. I have never had any luck with independent 2nd hand car salesman and most of them don’t tell you the true condition over the phone (or add any real value).

This dealer thought the car had vtec when I mentioned valve clearance.

On that note, the last inspection 2 only had an audible check of valve clearances. I’m not a mechanic, but I’m sure this is the not the correct way to do it?