Strange Z4M crash...

brillomaster · Post by **brillomaster** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm

in a spin, both feet in. the second he's in the gravel, dip the clutch, hard on the brake. with a little steering lock to the right so as to not hit the barrier on the left.

its these kind of videos that seriously make me worry about taking my own z4 on the nurburgring... but there are plenty of people who do successfully complete laps, right?!?

mmm-five · Post by **mmm-five** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:09 pm

brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm in a spin, both feet in. the second he's in the gravel, dip the clutch, hard on the brake. with a little steering lock to the right so as to not hit the barrier on the left.

its these kind of videos that seriously make me worry about taking my own z4 on the nurburgring... but there are plenty of people who do successfully complete laps, right?!?

I’m at over 500 laps so far

Kieran_Z4 · Post by **Kieran_Z4** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:09 pm

Wow that was a hard smash! Didn’t see any brake lights tho, was like he didn’t let off! Hope he’s ok as that was a bad one

Ed Doe · Post by **Ed Doe** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:11 pm

brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm in a spin, both feet in. the second he's in the gravel, dip the clutch, hard on the brake.

Utter tosh - he wasn't spinning - jamming the clutch and brake on would just initiate a spin

Bing · Post by **Bing** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:11 pm

Well that’s one less Imola M for Looney to chase after...

Looks like he started steering into the slide as the back end went on the gravel way too late... didn’t do it until he was back on tarmac. I’m not an expert, just seems if he’d caught it earlier he’d have buried the car in the gravel rather than the barrier on the other side of the track.

Bing · Post by **Bing** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:13 pm

That said, I’d be in the ‘shitting myself, too late !’ category of drivers so I can’t judge

Jembo · Post by **Jembo** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:30 pm

mmm-five wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:21 pm
R60BBA wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:06 pm But I just don’t understand why he got understeer on that bend? The line into the bend wasn’t far off the racing line...
Right line, wrong entry speed, and then got his steering inputs way too late once he was in the gravel.

Yup, the gravel was the killer here - should have kept it straight + lost more speed, as u can see moment the turned front left wheel has caught a gravel rut & turns rear into pendulum...

brillomaster · Post by **brillomaster** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:32 pm

Ed Doe wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:11 pm
brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm in a spin, both feet in. the second he's in the gravel, dip the clutch, hard on the brake.
Utter tosh - he wasn't spinning - jamming the clutch and brake on would just initiate a spin

I'd rather park in the gravel, then crash at speed headfirst into the Armco. In that situation I'm going to let the gravel do what its designed to do, and slow a car down safety before it hits the barrier. If it was tarmac run off I might do things differently, but clearly he'd lost control of the car - in that case I'd be scrubbing off speed as quickly as possible.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:52 pm

mmm-five wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:09 pm
brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm in a spin, both feet in. the second he's in the gravel, dip the clutch, hard on the brake. with a little steering lock to the right so as to not hit the barrier on the left.

its these kind of videos that seriously make me worry about taking my own z4 on the nurburgring... but there are plenty of people who do successfully complete laps, right?!?
I’m at over 500 laps so far

I'm 25 years visiting (missed 2) and also well over 500 laps. A very few close moments but no bumps or offs.

brillomaster · Post by **brillomaster** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:03 pm

that's what I like to hear! I'm only planning on driving it at moderate pace to say I've done it... I have no idea where it goes!

mmm-five · Post by **mmm-five** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:06 pm

brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:03 pm that's what I like to hear! I'm only planning on driving it at moderate pace to say I've done it... I have no idea where it goes!

Mostly clockwise

R60BBA · Post by **R60BBA** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:14 pm

brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm in a spin, both feet in. the second he's in the gravel, dip the clutch, hard on the brake. with a little steering lock to the right so as to not hit the barrier on the left.

its these kind of videos that seriously make me worry about taking my own z4 on the nurburgring... but there are plenty of people who do successfully complete laps, right?!?

Just do it man, this crash was because of driver error (which can easily be avoided).

It’s the crashes which occur due to factors out of your control that are the real bummers.

If you’re really worried insuremytrackday.com can provide cover for your own car and the Armco at touristfahrten.

I went in May after the NBR24h race, feel free to check my trip here: https://youtu.be/y0ymv8jOC0Y

TomK · Post by **TomK** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:32 pm

brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:03 pm that's what I like to hear! I'm only planning on driving it at moderate pace to say I've done it... I have no idea where it goes!

Likewise, I did it early on in the year, in my mind it was a must do. I said I'd only do 1 lap but couldn't resist a 2nd

Try cadge onto someone who does know where it was going as I luckily managed

Re: that crash you'd have to say that was ambitious driving for someone who judging by the corner before where you can see his exit didn't really know where the track was going either

Z4 COUPSTER · Post by **Z4 COUPSTER** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:39 pm

Take the chances pay the price!
I wonder if green flag will get him home?
Shame though.
D

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:07 pm

R60BBA wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:14 pm
brillomaster wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:02 pm
Just do it man, this crash was because of driver error (which can easily be avoided).

It’s the crashes which occur due to factors out of your control that are the real bummers.

If you’re really worried insuremytrackday.com can provide cover for your own car and the Armco at touristfahrten.

I went in May after the NBR24h race, feel free to check my trip here: https://youtu.be/y0ymv8jOC0Y

Enjoyed the video

Roadtrips are just the best!

The castle is very spectacular, went last year, albeit by motorbike. Sadly there was quite a lot of scaffolding in place then.

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