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Post by FD3S » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:15 pm

FD3S wrote: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:03 pm
Beedub wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:29 pm FD3S just do it man, youve been wanting it for so looonnngg !! i know its a big investment but just go for it!
Xxaxa we will see. I am thinking of it seriously. If I go the SC way I need also coilovers and brakes, so lots of money :) But if I do it I will miss that sound of the CSL airbox for sure.

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Post by Machine monkey » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:15 am

Mister T wrote: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:41 pm Interesting news regarding the SCS Delta on a Z4M, that would actually sway me towards a CSL airbox as I wouldn't have to run a crappy alpha-n map...

Also great for a supercharger conversion as could get the car live mapped in the UK without having to rely on a generic tune.
Yep big news for all z4 owners.
My little blue zed is in lots of bits. With lots of things started and not many finished! I may have found the limits of my time and ability!!

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Post by Machine monkey » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:23 am

Wow that is a completely new world if that works. I don't know for sure but the Z4M ecu has different than the M3. Right? If that is right how this think can work with our ECU's?
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Yes it has a different ECU as like the 330 - z4 different pin outs on the ECU and probably different internals. But SCS sell the kit with a connecting loom and a base map. It is just as simple as plug in and go. I have had many long chats with Matthew Payne he is a great guy and know his stuff.

It doesn’t work with your ECU it’s instead of. And they have spent a long time developing their product so it works with all the other car systems over the can bus network. Call them up. Mention me Mat (with the blue z4) there was a z4mc waiting to be picked up (when i dropped my car off Sunday) that’s already had one fitted.
My little blue zed is in lots of bits. With lots of things started and not many finished! I may have found the limits of my time and ability!!

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Post by NikitasZ4mcoupe » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am

Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
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Post by Mister T » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:20 am

FD3S wrote: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:14 pm
Mister T wrote: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:41 pm Interesting news regarding the SCS Delta on a Z4M, that would actually sway me towards a CSL airbox as I wouldn't have to run a crappy alpha-n map...

Also great for a supercharger conversion as could get the car live mapped in the UK without having to rely on a generic tune.
Out of curiosity why you mention the Alpha N as crap?
You can't add the MAP sensor compensation to the Z4M DME like you can with the E46 M3 (to CSL spec), so any tune will always be slightly compromised.

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Post by FD3S » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:25 pm

Machine monkey wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:23 am
Yes it has a different ECU as like the 330 - z4 different pin outs on the ECU and probably different internals. But SCS sell the kit with a connecting loom and a base map. It is just as simple as plug in and go. I have had many long chats with Matthew Payne he is a great guy and know his stuff.

It doesn’t work with your ECU it’s instead of. And they have spent a long time developing their product so it works with all the other car systems over the can bus network. Call them up. Mention me Mat (with the blue z4) there was a z4mc waiting to be picked up (when i dropped my car off Sunday) that’s already had one fitted.
Thank you for the answer. If I decide to go this way I will definitely give them a call.

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Post by FD3S » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:37 pm

NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
You are bad influence my friend. Our last ride is going to cost me 7000 euro at least :rofl: It is the whole setup and how smooth it runs and how OEM-look is this kit.

I just got home after work, but hopefully if you can too I would be glad to go for a ride during the weekend.

The 100-200 is good, but now tell me what is your 0-100? I believe this will be jaw dropping :D
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Post by Beedub » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:09 pm

NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
if those figures are accurate its actually mind bending...... i suppose given the weight of the car its very plausible but according to the list of times for the 100-200.... your beating some serious supercars.
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Post by Beedub » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:11 pm

FD3S wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:37 pm
NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
You are bad influence my friend. Our last ride is going to cost me 7000 euro at least :rofl: It is the whole setup and how smooth it runs and how OEM-look is this kit.

I just got home after work, but hopefully if you can too I would be glad to go for a ride during the weekend.

The 100-200 is good, but now tell me what is your 0-100? I believe this will jaw dropping :D
those figures are way more than good and tell you way more than a 0-60 figure.
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Post by Beedub » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:12 pm

NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
Good to see you here man!!!!!
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Post by NikitasZ4mcoupe » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:01 am

Beedub wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:09 pm
NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
if those figures are accurate its actually mind bending...... i suppose given the weight of the car its very plausible but according to the list of times for the 100-200.... your beating some serious supercars.
Hey Beedub!!! How are you mate? I was very busy the last months with my new born baby boy!!! But now I am back to business :driving:
I know that it seems too good to be true, but car performes really well.
As you are aware it has been dynod at 476whp and weights 1440kg.
This is a very good combination with the 3.91diff.

I was very skeptical at the begining with the results, thats why I bought a 10Hz GPS to be used with Harris Lap time software.
It should have a 0.1sec accuracy........ I can share with you guys the vbo file if somebody whats to verify this!!!

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Post by NikitasZ4mcoupe » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:10 am

Beedub wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:12 pm
NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
Good to see you here man!!!!!
Thanks mate!!

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Post by Beedub » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:53 pm

NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:01 am
Beedub wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:09 pm
NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am Hey Man!!!
How are you?
Lets go for a spin tonight with my VT2-525.
I am sure it will clear out your mind as you are going to immediately place the order.

If I were you, I would buy the kit new, as will include the ecu tune and all the proper support from ESS.

Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
if those figures are accurate its actually mind bending...... i suppose given the weight of the car its very plausible but according to the list of times for the 100-200.... your beating some serious supercars.
Hey Beedub!!! How are you mate? I was very busy the last months with my new born baby boy!!! But now I am back to business :driving:
I know that it seems too good to be true, but car performes really well.
As you are aware it has been dynod at 476whp and weights 1440kg.
This is a very good combination with the 3.91diff.

I was very skeptical at the begining with the results, thats why I bought a 10Hz GPS to be used with Harris Lap time software.
It should have a 0.1sec accuracy........ I can share with you guys the vbo file if somebody whats to verify this!!!
Another blown z4m running super well, for perspective those in gear times are matching mclaren , 488 performance,

2.0 – Renault R25 F1 car (800+ HP / 1,300 lb curb weight)
3.5 – Hayabusa Turbo (316 HP)
4.2 – Yamaha R1
4.3 – Suzuki GSXR-1000
4.5 – Kawasaki ZX-14
4.6 - Hayabusa (stock)
4.6 – Honda CBR 1000 RR
4.8 – Veyron
5.0 – Ducati 1098 S
5.3 – Koenigsegg CCX
5.6 – Suzuki GSXR 750
5.6 – Sportec SPR-1
5.7 – Koenigsegg CCR
5.8 – Mosler MT900 GTR
6.1 - Mclaren F1
6.2 - Pagani Zonda F
6.2 – Honda CBR 600 RR
6.4 - RUF RT-12
6.4 - Carrera GT
6.5 – Pagani Zonda R
6.5 – Kawasaki ZX6-R
6.7 - Enzo
6.8 - GTB 599
6.8 – CBR 1100XX
7.2 - SLR
7.8 - Murci LP640
7.9 - C6 Z06
8.0 - Ford GT
8.4 - 997TT
8.4 - F430
8.4 - 996 GT2
8.6 - M6
8.7 - SL65 AMG
8.8 - Gallardo Superleggera
8.8 - M5
8.9 - S65 AMG
9.0 - 996TT X50/Turbo 'S'
9.1 - Gallardo SE
9.7 - 996TT- 9.7
10.0 - E55 AMG
10.2 - 996 GT3
10.2- Viper SRT-10
10.5 - E63 AMG
10.8 - 993TT
11.2 - AM Vanquish S
11.2 - Audi RS-4 (2007)
11.3 - Audi RS-6
11.6 - SLK-55 “Black” series
11.8 - Bentley Continental GT
12.0 - AM Vantage (2007)
12.4 - E46 M3
13.8 - Jeep SRT-8
14.7 - Cayenne TT (450 HP)
14.9 - EVO IV
16.4 - Supra TT (1995)
16.6 - WRX STi
17.1 - 350Z Coupe (‘06)
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Post by GuidoK » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:52 pm

NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am
Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
100-200 in 7.16sec is insanely fast, even with the 2% downhill.

What android app did you use for that? I have a 10hz bluetooth gps but not a good android app.
In the good old nokia/symbian days there was an app called racechrono that had nice performance logging features but now I cant find a decent one that gets all the data from the bluetooth gps.
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Post by NikitasZ4mcoupe » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:27 pm

GuidoK wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:52 pm
NikitasZ4mcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 am
Attached below 100-200Km/hr results with 10Hz GPS. The test was done with 2% down hill
100-200 in 7.16sec is insanely fast, even with the 2% downhill.

What android app did you use for that? I have a 10hz bluetooth gps but not a good android app.
In the good old nokia/symbian days there was an app called racechrono that had nice performance logging features but now I cant find a decent one that gets all the data from the bluetooth gps.
Harry's Lap timer
http://www.gps-laptimer.de/
Its considered one of the good ones..

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