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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 3:13 pm

Just wow.

Car booked in for a simple oil change as 12 months since I did the inbetween one, and 24 months since the dealer did it for the service book. Plus the brake fluid change.

Now their system keeps spitting out a price of £600, which I keep telling them is an inspection service, not an oil one that I’ve requested.

I’ve got 11k until an inspection is required, so rushing it in only 4K after the last pile service is madness. Probably more mad is the oil being removed only covered 562 miles judging by the MOT, so excessive to change anyway!

Dealer then asks if I want the micro filter changed (only done 4K since last oil change) and informs me I I do then it’s going to be £1200. I point out that’s an inspection 2 not the addition of a micro filter, which is a £45 part.

This service chap has already told me he’s worked for BMW for 18 years, how can he be so out of touch with the servicing requirements and costs!?

How can it not be as simple as ‘do what the customer asks, not what the computer spits out’?
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Post by PerryGunn » Wed May 02, 2018 3:24 pm

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Just phone another dealer for a quote then, assuming you want to use your local one, go back to them and point out the difference...

An oil service can usually be done while you wait so if they won't drop the price go elsewhere - as an aside, you can usually get it even cheaper if you supply your own oil.
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 3:34 pm

Service was already booked in with them earlier in the week & the same conversation with their booking dept. “No, it’s mot an inspection, I want an oil change plus brake fluid”. But it’s not an option for you sir, you you can only have a £600 or a £1200 service because it’s an M.

It’s being done as I wait. It was more a rant about the level of incompetence trying to charge a customer £600 for a £200 oil change. If a customer wasn’t clued up they might just pay it.

Completely forgot to bring my own oil until I arrived. Although they’d have somehow screwed that up too I bet!

Think I will use another dealer next time, or decide that a specialist should be used from now on instead. You just have to hope the chap out the back knows more than the person with the computer.
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Post by bmwaddict » Wed May 02, 2018 4:03 pm

Exactly why I use an independent specialist, unlike BMW they are more flexible than "that's not on my screen sir".
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Post by mark seeker » Wed May 02, 2018 5:25 pm

Does anyone know a rough cost of an oil change at main dealer if the oil is supplied at all?
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 6:45 pm

mark seeker wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 5:25 pm Does anyone know a rough cost of an oil change at main dealer if the oil is supplied at all?
I was charged £69.60 for my oil from the dealer, so in theory that much less.

Just noticed the feckers have also cleaned the car, despite lying that they hadn't. Dash cams are handy things....and to see your P&J be attacked by a blade type dryer and done in 1.5mins before a chamois finished it off. :headbang:

Am furious, it had a full machine polish before it went away for winter and some cnut has just dragged a blade over the poorly washed paint. I have asked the dealer if they will b paying to rectify any marks I find in my paint.... :x :x
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Post by srhutch » Wed May 02, 2018 8:15 pm

mj2k wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 6:45 pm
mark seeker wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 5:25 pm Does anyone know a rough cost of an oil change at main dealer if the oil is supplied at all?
I was charged £69.60 for my oil from the dealer, so in theory that much less.

Just noticed the feckers have also cleaned the car, despite lying that they hadn't. Dash cams are handy things....and to see your P&J be attacked by a blade type dryer and done in 1.5mins before a chamois finished it off. :headbang:

Am furious, it had a full machine polish before it went away for winter and some cnut has just dragged a blade over the poorly washed paint. I have asked the dealer if they will b paying to rectify any marks I find in my paint.... :x :x
£70 for oil is cheap from a dealer.

Main dealer did my oil service last year under the value scheme @ £199 managed to supply my own oil so was only charged about £80. Local stealer was charging around £20 per litre for oil.
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 8:25 pm

srhutch wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 8:15 pm
mj2k wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 6:45 pm
mark seeker wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 5:25 pm Does anyone know a rough cost of an oil change at main dealer if the oil is supplied at all?
I was charged £69.60 for my oil from the dealer, so in theory that much less.

Just noticed the feckers have also cleaned the car, despite lying that they hadn't. Dash cams are handy things....and to see your P&J be attacked by a blade type dryer and done in 1.5mins before a chamois finished it off. :headbang:

Am furious, it had a full machine polish before it went away for winter and some cnut has just dragged a blade over the poorly washed paint. I have asked the dealer if they will b paying to rectify any marks I find in my paint.... :x :x
£70 for oil is cheap from a dealer.

Main dealer did my oil service last year under the value scheme @ £199 managed to supply my own oil so was only charged about £80. Local stealer was charging around £20 per litre for oil.
Based on what their wider performance has been, they’ve prob screwed it up then & wrong oil....

Will post the invoice up, was £12 a litre, worryingly only charged me for 5....thought I needed 5.5L??
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 8:28 pm

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Post by hopz121 » Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 pm

Interestingly they don't say what oil was used either.

I hope they used the correct 10W60!

Things like this make me so glad i don't use main dealers now, the moment they started doubting the price is the moment i would have walked out.
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 9:12 pm

hopz121 wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 pm Interestingly they don't say what oil was used either.

I hope they used the correct 10W60!

Things like this make me so glad i don't use main dealers now, the moment they started doubting the price is the moment i would have walked out.
The price was their system price, had the same conversation via their telephone network booking it in. Just a lot of people who don’t know or care. If you don’t know your stuff they will take your cash - even worse, was he said it was due to it being an M Sport :headbang:

If engine goes puff, they are the last people to have changed the oil....and it’s only on 24k, an interesting discussion.

Oh and here’s the muppet drying my car with the devils tool. All in all, a shite day car wise, and wife doesn’t understand my mood tonight.
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Post by mr wilks » Wed May 02, 2018 9:18 pm

mj2k wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:12 pm
hopz121 wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 pm Interestingly they don't say what oil was used either.

I hope they used the correct 10W60!

Things like this make me so glad i don't use main dealers now, the moment they started doubting the price is the moment i would have walked out.
The price was their system price, had the same conversation via their telephone network booking it in. Just a lot of people who don’t know or care. If you don’t know your stuff they will take your cash - even worse, was he said it was due to it being an M Sport :headbang:

If engine goes puff, they are the last people to have changed the oil....and it’s only on 24k, an interesting discussion.

Oh and here’s the muppet drying my car with the devils tool. All in all, a shite day car wise, and wife doesn’t understand my mood tonight.
Everything you have said about the whole episode scares me :cry: i would not be able to rest until i had bought my own 10w 60 & thrust it into the hands of my indy to change while i had a coffee & watched . The dealership you have chosen are clearly inept in dealing with your model of car so why would you even trust them & actually leave the car + key :cry:
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Post by BradleyB » Wed May 02, 2018 9:28 pm

I got an oil service done at Barons, Farnborough on my M a couple of months ago. I got a quote online for £199, with BMW providing the oil as they said there was no option to reduce the price by providing the oil myself.

I was happy with that price anyway, so went ahead and booked. On the day, I asked if brake fluid could be changed also as it was a couple of years since the last change. They charged ~£70 for that also. £270 all in wasn’t bad I don’t think!
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 9:36 pm

mr wilks wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:18 pm
mj2k wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:12 pm
hopz121 wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 pm Interestingly they don't say what oil was used either.

I hope they used the correct 10W60!

Things like this make me so glad i don't use main dealers now, the moment they started doubting the price is the moment i would have walked out.
The price was their system price, had the same conversation via their telephone network booking it in. Just a lot of people who don’t know or care. If you don’t know your stuff they will take your cash - even worse, was he said it was due to it being an M Sport :headbang:

If engine goes puff, they are the last people to have changed the oil....and it’s only on 24k, an interesting discussion.

Oh and here’s the muppet drying my car with the devils tool. All in all, a shite day car wise, and wife doesn’t understand my mood tonight.
Everything you have said about the whole episode scares me :cry: i would not be able to rest until i had bought my own 10w 60 & thrust it into the hands of my indy to change while i had a coffee & watched . The dealership you have chosen are clearly inept in dealing with your model of car so why would you even trust them & actually leave the car + key :cry:
I will be emailing the manager once I’ve had response regarding the paintwork.

If they are happy to stand by having used the correct oil for my car based on their master tech doing the work, then I’m happy if they are. It’s more the front of house vs the actual mechanics that worries me, oh and the car cleaning gorillas :lol: Surely they can’t log a number plate and then use the wrong oil on the instructions provided to them?

Although I certainly won’t be returning to Cooper BMW Reading, or their other branches. But also despise Sytner, so am going to have to go indie now I think. Annoyingly wanted to keep a full BMW service history but thinking Munich Legends or Grovesnor might be the way forward, as BMW won’t be training people on these engines as already stated, become a plug in & fix level of mechanic.
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Post by mj2k » Wed May 02, 2018 9:37 pm

BradleyB wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 9:28 pm I got an oil service done at Barons, Farnborough on my M a couple of months ago. I got a quote online for £199, with BMW providing the oil as they said there was no option to reduce the price by providing the oil myself.

I was happy with that price anyway, so went ahead and booked. On the day, I asked if brake fluid could be changed also as it was a couple of years since the last change. They charged ~£70 for that also. £270 all in wasn’t bad I don’t think!
That’s good to know, as they gave me the brake fluid change for free based on my wasted time and frustration.
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