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Better than an M ?
- JayEmm
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Better than an M ?
It is a truth every YTer must accept that whatever you review, someone more knowledgeable and passionate will be out there to tell you that you're wrong. It's just life!
If I had to own any of my BMWs again it would be either my 645i or my Z4 MC. It was a brief but memorable affair. I don't know what I would think of the E85 now looking at it through a lens of two years of driving all sorts of metal.
If I had to own any of my BMWs again it would be either my 645i or my Z4 MC. It was a brief but memorable affair. I don't know what I would think of the E85 now looking at it through a lens of two years of driving all sorts of metal.
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James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
- mr wilks
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Ive had the ownership pleasure of a 645ci , my one & only V8 & car that will always be remembered both bad & good the noise , comfort , torque , refinement & even the questionable looks were all plus points for me , the catalogue of bills i had in 6 months however soiled the experience & regrettably we parted companyJayEmm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:14 pm It is a truth every YTer must accept that whatever you review, someone more knowledgeable and passionate will be out there to tell you that you're wrong. It's just life!
If I had to own any of my BMWs again it would be either my 645i or my Z4 MC. It was a brief but memorable affair. I don't know what I would think of the E85 now looking at it through a lens of two years of driving all sorts of metal.
3 ZMRs
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
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3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
- JayEmm
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I got away with my ownership experience fairly scot free - the previous owner had done most big bits. I put 15,000 miles on it, it cost me two rear tyres (that hurt), a light bulb (much trickier than it should have been) and that was it.
The one week where it ate £300 of fuel though was not so easy to stomach.
Slightly back on topic my Z4 M was a ruthless car for my local B roads, but turned out to be an excellent tool for a 2,500 mile trip around Europe. Annoyingly on my return it cost me a fortune when an O2 sensor failed.
They were the last BMWs I owned which I loved. My E46 M3 was a nightmare from start to finish.
The one week where it ate £300 of fuel though was not so easy to stomach.
Slightly back on topic my Z4 M was a ruthless car for my local B roads, but turned out to be an excellent tool for a 2,500 mile trip around Europe. Annoyingly on my return it cost me a fortune when an O2 sensor failed.
They were the last BMWs I owned which I loved. My E46 M3 was a nightmare from start to finish.
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James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
- Gustavo7
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Just watched the video JayEmm, found it really interesting and elucidating. Well done!
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- JayEmm
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Thankyou Gustavo. That's a hell of a collection you seem to have. Rarified company your Z4 lives with.
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James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
- Twin Turbo
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Get some coilovers on the 35is and it make it transform the car, to what it should have been.
- earthdweller
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I think it would be really interesting to see a back to back review of the 3.0Si and M car as they seem to be the pinnacle of the normal range and the “halo” car
I’ve not seen one where the two are compared back to back
Plenty say the Si is the sweet spot .. plenty say it isn’t
I know someone with an Si and I think Mr Wilks has just bought an M
I’ve not seen one where the two are compared back to back
Plenty say the Si is the sweet spot .. plenty say it isn’t
I know someone with an Si and I think Mr Wilks has just bought an M
07 3.0si Sport Roadster Titanium Silver/Syrah Blue Individual Leather, CSL reps ZHP
- Smartbear
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I should think the si makes a better daily driver due to its lower running costs & softer edges, the M sounds like more of a fun weekend car?earthdweller wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:00 pm I think it would be really interesting to see a back to back review of the 3.0Si and M car as they seem to be the pinnacle of the normal range and the “halo” car
I’ve not seen one where the two are compared back to back
Plenty say the Si is the sweet spot .. plenty say it isn’t
I know someone with an Si and I think Mr Wilks has just bought an M
Not having owned an M that’s a bit of guesswork from me, but I have driven one
Rob
e89 Sdrive 20i, plenty of mumbo & good economy-the thinking bears z4
e89 Sdrive 30i, this ones busted, pass me another...
e85 3.0si sold
- original guvnor
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I've been to many Z4 Forum meets over the years and I'd say the last people to start offering sartorial advice are members on here. Most of you look like you have an exclusive deal with Blue Harbour at M&S.
It's easy to snipe at a bloke starting out a YT channel but the negative tone expressed on here doesn't surprise me. If it doesn't fit in to the narrow view of the world that seems to pervade this place then it gets sniped at. Standing in a field with bonnets up talking about cruise control wiring looms is what passes for exciting in your lives!! Look at Shmee 150's early content. Now that was amateur but he stuck at it, ignores the haters (and there's an awful lot of them) and just keeps working hard. He's now making more in a week than 99% of you lot make in a year.
It's easy to snipe at a bloke starting out a YT channel but the negative tone expressed on here doesn't surprise me. If it doesn't fit in to the narrow view of the world that seems to pervade this place then it gets sniped at. Standing in a field with bonnets up talking about cruise control wiring looms is what passes for exciting in your lives!! Look at Shmee 150's early content. Now that was amateur but he stuck at it, ignores the haters (and there's an awful lot of them) and just keeps working hard. He's now making more in a week than 99% of you lot make in a year.
- mr wilks
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"Blue Harbour" had to google thatoriginal guvnor wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:33 pm I've been to many Z4 Forum meets over the years and most of you look like you have an exclusive deal with Blue Harbour at M&S.
3 ZMRs
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5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
- Jaw
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I hate how people buy a sports car and then complain about the ride being stiff
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E92 M3 | 981 Boxster S | Corvette C4 | 996 911 Gemballa |XR8 | Whatever else is lurking in the garage
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- GuidoK
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It reveals their mental age. The mental age of the guy in the vid is about 80 I recon...
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- ben g
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love it. True on the narrow view part. Can't comment on the standing in a field bit, but that is the image portrayed in my mind when I think of 'gentlemen' car meets.original guvnor wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:33 pm I've been to many Z4 Forum meets over the years and I'd say the last people to start offering sartorial advice are members on here. Most of you look like you have an exclusive deal with Blue Harbour at M&S.
It's easy to snipe at a bloke starting out a YT channel but the negative tone expressed on here doesn't surprise me. If it doesn't fit in to the narrow view of the world that seems to pervade this place then it gets sniped at. Standing in a field with bonnets up talking about cruise control wiring looms is what passes for exciting in your lives!! Look at Shmee 150's early content. Now that was amateur but he stuck at it, ignores the haters (and there's an awful lot of them) and just keeps working hard. He's now making more in a week than 99% of you lot make in a year.
Red Soft-top Sterling grey 3.0i - Z4M Front, Eibachs, Polybushed, Clear headlights, Triple clear spot rear lights, Shadow Chrome 107's, Sport MFSW, ZHP.
- MrPT
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To be fair, this discussion occurs seated on robust, portable lawn furniture in conservative colours.original guvnor wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:33 pm Standing in a field with bonnets up talking about cruise control wiring looms is what passes for exciting in your lives!!
2008 Z4MC: heavy wheels | crap suspension | skittish rear end | wobbly engine | not enough induction noise | underwhelming turn in | inconsistent braking | lardy battery | chubby steering wheel
2006 Z4 2.5si: gone
2006 Z4 2.5si: gone
- JayEmm
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There is no need for a sports car to be rock hard. It's not a race car. I appreciate some cars need to ride firmly, and there is always a trade-off between comfort and control, but the idea a sports car MUST be super stiff and uncomfortable is simply untrue.
Anyone who disagrees with that I'd heartily recommend try a Lotus Evora then get back to me.
In defence of the ///M, I recall my 996 on sports suspension being pretty similar. Fine on European roads. Not fine on the ones that surround me.
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James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4