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Better than an M ?
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Better than an M ?
The fact he's wearing a floral shirt is enough to make me put the x in the corner
Nice car though
Nice car though
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Better than an M ?
Just had this pop up on my phone and thought some of you guys might be interested. Not the best review in the world but but it's only 15 mins.
Think I'll stick with the M///
https://youtu.be/UKcrXd2K0IA
Think I'll stick with the M///
https://youtu.be/UKcrXd2K0IA
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Reason: Duplicates merged
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A Dirty M///
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E89 35is vs ZM review
Two things he got wrong....he said at the start it’s a sports car... Ermmmm...no.....
2nd, he said it needed the tracking sorting out....ermmmm....no....that’s how they are....
Other than that he’s spot on imho.
Exactly why I got a pigster.
Still very very good cars though.
2nd, he said it needed the tracking sorting out....ermmmm....no....that’s how they are....
Other than that he’s spot on imho.
Exactly why I got a pigster.
Still very very good cars though.
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E89 35is
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E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
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E89 35is vs ZM review
There seems to be this extreme dichotomy with so many reviewers and owners liking the E89 but saying it wanders or it is tail happy or whatever. Meanwhile , I know stock E89s to be very enjoyable on back roads with very good balance and adhesion, and even being used for track-time (here in the USA). I have explored the limits rather thoroughly but they are foolishly high for public roads. There is certainly no wander. So I wonder what is the issue with some of them? Perhaps it is the combination of the M adaptable suspension and the tires which are the variables. And in case you are wondering, I have owned, and tracked a variety of cars including Porsche. Also I am not saying it is the ultimate track handling car. It may be the ultimate enjoyable, all weather, versatile, sports, roadster/coupe.
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That would be me
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History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
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E89 35is vs ZM review
US, UK and European roads all vary greatly.
On many of the roads I have driven in the USA, there'd be nothing wrong at all with how the E89 is setup.
UK roads are something quite special indeed.
On many of the roads I have driven in the USA, there'd be nothing wrong at all with how the E89 is setup.
UK roads are something quite special indeed.
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James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
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Well i'm sure you are used to criticism by now , i found it amateurish , lame & didn't engage me at all though the DCT description did give me a laugh & for those who were thinking of upgrading to a 35is at least they will know it makes a "pleasant" noise
i don't waste a lot of my time watching youtube car reviews but here's one for comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i0RLro4Hmw
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997 C4
TTRS
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MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
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E89 35is vs ZM review
I love mine. Best car I have ever had.
Gone : 2013 35is, Melbourne Red, DCT, Nav, Comfort pack
Gone: 2007 2.5is, Montego Blue, Auto, Nav
Gone: 2007 2.5is, Montego Blue, Auto, Nav
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E89 35is vs ZM review
There just seems to be a fundamental mistake in its chassis somewhere, even on premium non run flats there’s very little steering feel, and with the 35is I found an unnerving understeer then snap oversteer which to me felt like weight transfer, I’ve likened it to a tank of water in the boot sloshing from one side to the other. Maybe it’s the roof weight high up in the car. Really spoils the car. I’ve no idea how you would dial it out, I suspect you couldn’t, it’s just too heavy with this chassis design fault.extaz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:23 pm There seems to be this extreme dichotomy with so many reviewers and owners liking the E89 but saying it wanders or it is tail happy or whatever. Meanwhile , I know stock E89s to be very enjoyable on back roads with very good balance and adhesion, and even being used for track-time (here in the USA). I have explored the limits rather thoroughly but they are foolishly high for public roads. There is certainly no wander. So I wonder what is the issue with some of them? Perhaps it is the combination of the M adaptable suspension and the tires which are the variables. And in case you are wondering, I have owned, and tracked a variety of cars including Porsche. Also I am not saying it is the ultimate track handling car. It may be the ultimate enjoyable, all weather, versatile, sports, roadster/coupe.
Such a shame as it looks great, fab interior, goes like stink, fantastic engine and DCT in the 35 models. Agonised over selling mine for over a year, loved it but was ultimately disappointed. That said if you don’t mind a non pin sharp light car there’s little to to better them as an everyday fast open top roadster.
All just imo obviously.
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MR2 MK 2
E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
E89 35is
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E89 35i project car...mapped 365bhp, M4 stoppers & wheels, KWV3’s, H&R front ARB, M3 front arms, strut brace Eisenmann cat back race exhaust, VRSF downpipes inbound
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E89 35is vs ZM review
Same review has already surfaced here viewtopic.php?f=9&t=105352
I ran my 35i (remapped) with MPSS on H&Rs with stock geo , was never or will ever be either a ZMC ZMR or Boxster but they can be driven fast & they can & do corner & handle very well indeed a 3 day Normandy trip with ZMs & a Alpina the twinturbo easily held its own & never once lost composure or felt like it was reaching the edge of its capabilities & we were often into 3 numbers
I ran my 35i (remapped) with MPSS on H&Rs with stock geo , was never or will ever be either a ZMC ZMR or Boxster but they can be driven fast & they can & do corner & handle very well indeed a 3 day Normandy trip with ZMs & a Alpina the twinturbo easily held its own & never once lost composure or felt like it was reaching the edge of its capabilities & we were often into 3 numbers
3 ZMRs
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
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E89 35is vs ZM review
We were going easy on you mr wilks
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E89 35is vs ZM review
3 ZMRs
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
3 E89s
5 Si coupes
5 Si roadsters
997 C4
TTRS
F82 M4
MK7 Golf Gti
current Bmw 6 Gran Turismo
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E89 35is vs ZM review
I know, we let you lead so we didn't lose you
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Better than an M ?
Can't win them all!
Thanks for watching in any case. I wish I could have reviewed my Z4 M, but I wasnt running the channel when I had it. So much better than my E46, and so much worse at the same time. A car truly full of character traits... and defects!
Thanks for watching in any case. I wish I could have reviewed my Z4 M, but I wasnt running the channel when I had it. So much better than my E46, and so much worse at the same time. A car truly full of character traits... and defects!
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James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4
James Martin - aka "JayEmm"
Director of Photography (Cameraman)
History: E46 M3 LSB, Z4 MC, '05 E46 330Ci Clubsport, 645Ci, '96 911 Targa, '99 911 C4