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Post by Vanne » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:01 am

Yep good luck, and did you get the pax occupancy sim yet? :D

looking forwards to the build :D
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Post by Monaco84 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:43 am

check "pleie motorsport"

There you can get everything you need for under 500€

PS: I have an OEM passenger occupancy mat, you can have it for 60€ (bmw price 130€)
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Post by RedUn » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:10 am

mmm-five wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:53 pm I think I've decided to do it myself...and do the passenger seat first, so that I'm not stuck with an unusable car if I need to go out and get tools/bits/glue/fire extinguisher.

How hard can it be - after all it only took me 5 minutes to remove the seat last time I cleaned under there!

Will order the pieces I need (the Macht Schnell floor mounts and seat belt bracket) - although I've already ordered the Recaro seats/side mounts/sliders as I thought getting them all from the same place would be easiest. But I think the supplier has ordered side mounts for Pole Positions instead of Pole Position ABE (which are wider and use the XL sidemount).

I should be able to reuse the existing seat belt receptacle and pre-tensioner, as long as I connect it up correctly of course.
Sounds like a plan :thumbsup:

Ask the original suppliers for the correct parts to go with your seat seen as you have paid for it...
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Post by mmm-five » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:47 am

Vanne wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:01 am pleie motorsport
I was thinking that if I use the original seat belt receptacle, and leave the passenger seat-belt buckled, that I wouldn't need a sensor. I just run the risk of setting off the passenger airbag in an accident.
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Post by mmm-five » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:56 am

Thanks all, plenty to think about.

It's going to be a bit awkward, as I've got very little space to store anything at the moment, and am away from home Mon-Fri - hence the original requirement to get it fitted all at the same time, by the same place.

Will have to see what I can arrange, and go from there. Maybe get it all shipped down to Cornwall for my mate to store at his garage, and then get my brakes done at the same time? But that could be months away.
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Post by Mikey_Boy » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:52 pm

Hi Folks,

For what its worth... I have fitted Recaro SPG seats to my car - the thread is still here but I got 'photobucketed' like half of the internet did so pics are blocked... :headbang:

Here's the thread: https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4&start=30

From memory - I used VAC floor mounts (these are excellent), Recaro side mounts (steel as these are lower) and I welded an M10 boss to one side so that I could mount the standard pretensioner seat belt buckle - just plug that into the seat loom. For the passenger occupancy airbag sensor, I searched a generic online bidding site beginning with 'E' for an emulator and connected this to the right pins on the passenger side plug (again an online search helps here). Coding this out I believe is tricky but not impossible - BMW Coders were unwilling to commit to help as they saw it as a safety issue to actively disable an airbag (understandable). The only downside of the plug-in gizmo I have is that when driving alone I have buckle the passenger seat belt or the car shouts at me as it thinks there is someone in the passenger seat.

The seat is plenty low enough set up like this (in fact much better than the standard M seats - apologies to the purists!) with enough head room for me and my helmet for track days (I'm 1m 75 tall). The only issue is seat width, with the door panel fouling the seat slightly - that might be worse with Pole positions? I've stuck small high density foam patches to minimise damage to the seat and the door panel.

Overall, a bit of a pain in the backside, but well worth the effort - took me a day end to end.

Hope that helps!! :thumbsup:

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Post by mmm-five » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:22 pm

The PP ABE is the same 580mm shoulder width.

What happens if you don't have the occupancy sensor or occupancy mat (that I've been offered elsewhere in this thread :thumbsup: )

The reason I thought I might be able to do away with any coding was the way the guy in this video installs the seats into an e46 and unplugs the big yellow plug, removes the seatbelt specific plug, then plugs that one back in when he puts the new seat in.

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Post by Vanne » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:29 pm

Airbag light comes on.
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Post by mmm-five » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:32 pm

Vanne wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:29 pm Airbag light comes on.
So sounds like a replacement mat would be handy to sit underneath the PP cushion then :thumbsup:
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Post by Vanne » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:36 pm

Dunno, Ive got a pax Sim, just haven't bothered to put it in. Pax seat sensor isn't an option for my seats, but just remember if you do grab the proper pax sensor, you gotta put it under the seat cover..
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Post by mpm » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:03 pm

CA automotive have a sale on currently.
Discount on runners etc if you need them

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Post by mmm-five » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:56 pm

mpm wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:03 pm CA automotive have a sale on currently.
Discount on runners etc if you need them
That’s where I’m planning on getting them.

Prices on the website are out of date (over £800 for floor mounts & hybrid seat belt mounts) vs the £590 I’ve been quoted. Don’t know if that’s at their current sale price though, so will check tomorrow.
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Post by TomK » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:52 am

mmm-five wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:56 pm
mpm wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:03 pm CA automotive have a sale on currently.
Discount on runners etc if you need them
That’s where I’m planning on getting them.

Prices on the website are out of date (over £800 for floor mounts & hybrid seat belt mounts) vs the £590 I’ve been quoted. Don’t know if that’s at their current sale price though, so will check tomorrow.
Also take a look at pete's stuff which is very nice quality.
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Post by mmm-five » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:07 pm

TomK wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:52 am http://www.psdesignsglobal.com/products-services/psdesigns-bracketry/
Thanks :thumbsup:

Haven't ordered any of the bracketry yet, so will have to choose between Macht Schnell, VAC Motorsport, and PSD.

At least the PSD stuff is made in the UK.
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Post by RedUn » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:00 pm

mmm-five wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:07 pm
Thanks :thumbsup:

Haven't ordered any of the bracketry yet, so will have to choose between Macht Schnell, VAC Motorsport, and PSD.

At least the PSD stuff is made in the UK.
Holy thread resurrection...

Did you get these fitted in the end? Any pics? 8)
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