Service, whats it due ?

[LostBoy_84]

I’m in a similar situation;
Had inspection 2 in 2014 at 38k, oil service in 2016, now on 47k and will be having Inspection 1.

Why? After only 10k miles since your inspection 2 an inspection 1 service isn't needed and you'll be paying to have your valve clearances done well ahead of schedule. If you're really worried about degradation over time (and that would really only be relating to corrosion of components) then I would suggest just getting a standard oil service done plus just the visual inspection parts of the Inspection 1 service.

My service book has so far followed the oil service, inspection 1, oil service, inspection 2 pattern.
For the sake of the £500 it costs for the service I’d rather keep it following that pattern and have the piece of mind it’s being kept in tip top condition.

[hopz121]

I’m in a similar situation;
Had inspection 2 in 2014 at 38k, oil service in 2016, now on 47k and will be having Inspection 1.

Why? After only 10k miles since your inspection 2 an inspection 1 service isn't needed and you'll be paying to have your valve clearances done well ahead of schedule. If you're really worried about degradation over time (and that would really only be relating to corrosion of components) then I would suggest just getting a standard oil service done plus just the visual inspection parts of the Inspection 1 service.

My service book has so far followed the oil service, inspection 1, oil service, inspection 2 pattern.
For the sake of the £500 it costs for the service I’d rather keep it following that pattern and have the piece of mind it’s being kept in tip top condition.

I agree, this is how my M is serviced too, with an additional Oil service every year.

Over kill, quite possibly but I am happier doing it this way and for what it costs its worth it.

Remember inspection services cover a more in depth look over the car.

Component's will degrade and wear over a 4 year period.

[hopz121]

Technically you need an inspection 1 in June this year if you wanted to keep the service history spot on.

I'd agree with that.

BMW service book states that with low mileage cars additional oil services can be carried out between inspection services which are done on mileage.

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That doesn't read as you have described it in my eyes.

All that says is regardless of miles, engine oil should be changed every 2 years, it doesn't say its ok to skip inspection services.

At the end of the day, there will be many views on this and its down to the OP to decide what is best for him.

[srhutch]

I'd agree with that.

BMW service book states that with low mileage cars additional oil services can be carried out between inspection services which are done on mileage.

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That doesn't read as you have described it in my eyes.

All that says is regardless of miles, engine oil should be changed every 2 years, it doesn't say its ok to skip inspection services.

At the end of the day, there will be many views on this and its down to the OP to decide what is best for him.

You need to re read it then. It's not skipping inspection services, just doing them on mileage and not time. There is no way I am going to have an inspection service every 4,000 miles and every 4 years. It's major overkill, which even BMW recognise.

[R60BBA]

BMW service book states that with low mileage cars additional oil services can be carried out between inspection services which are done on mileage.

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That doesn't read as you have described it in my eyes.

All that says is regardless of miles, engine oil should be changed every 2 years, it doesn't say its ok to skip inspection services.

At the end of the day, there will be many views on this and its down to the OP to decide what is best for him.

You need to re read it then. It's not skipping inspection services, just doing them on mileage and not time. There is no way I am going to have an inspection service every 4,000 miles and every 4 years. It's major overkill, which even BMW recognise.

Major overkill? Inspections are recommended every 2 years from a previous inspection.




If cost is an issue inspect the car yourself and then tell an indy to do the required work and keep the invoices for resale purposes.

[pvr]

That is not an M bulletin though.

[R60BBA]

That is not an M bulletin though.

Yep...it is...

[hopz121]

It would be interesting to see what BMW warranty would say.

I imagine they would want them carried out as below in that order.

Oil
Ins 1
Oil
Ins 2
Oil
etc

Every 2 years maximum, regardless of mileage.

I personally would want the services to follow the above structure as a minimum on any M car I would buy and would walk away if they didn't. I am not your average buyer and am mega fussy so take my views with a pinch of salt.

[R60BBA]

It would be interesting to see what BMW warranty would say.

I imagine they would want them carried out as below in that order.

Oil
Ins 1
Oil
Ins 2
Oil
etc

Every 2 years maximum, regardless of mileage.

I personally would want the services to follow the above structure as a minimum on any M car I would buy and would walk away if they didn't. I am not your average buyer and am mega fussy so take my views with a pinch of salt.

Agreed plus the fluid changes that I mentioned earlier which aren’t covered as standard by BMW.

[srhutch]

That is not an M bulletin though.

Yep...it is...

PVR is correct, its not really they have used the current condition based servicing model and applied it across the board. If you are happy paying £1,262 for the service below with no mention of shim checks, and gearbox and diff fluid changes fill your boots.

Engine oil service with microfilter, air filter & spark plugs £1262

SERVICE DESCRIPTION
Engine oil is drained and the engine is refilled with BMW approved oil
Oil filter is removed and replaced with a Genuine BMW oil filter
Microfilter(s) is removed and replaced with a Genuine BMW microfilter
Air Filter is removed and replaced with a Genuine BMW air filter
Spark plugs are removed and replaced with BMW approved spark plugs
For vehicles over 10 years old this may be referred to as an Inspection Il service. Please refer to your owner's manual or speak to your service advisor for more information
Relevant service light reset
Recommended every 18,000 miles or 2 years from last inspection. To alternate with and Inspection l service if applicable

[pvr]

But they talk about service lights. That went out in the early to mid nineties though.

[srhutch]

But they talk about service lights. That went out in the early to mid nineties though.

As you know PVR, the website cannot be used for service info for older cars, it doesn't work and gives incorrect information. Most main dealers apparently say now shims are not required to be checked during Inspection 1 services.

[Mangozac]

You guys doing inspection services based on time are mad and obviously have too much money! I agree that rubber components will degrade over time, but unless a car is doing crazy low miles such components will last until the next inspection service. Replacing spark plugs based on time is just stupid, as is doing valve clearances.

[Mister T]

You guys doing inspection services based on time are mad and obviously have too much money! I agree that rubber components will degrade over time, but unless a car is doing crazy low miles such components will last until the next inspection service. Replacing spark plugs based on time is just stupid, as is doing valve clearances.

LOL!!

It can be 4 years between inspections, it's not like people are throwing thousands at servicing every few months...

[srhutch]

It would be interesting to see what BMW warranty would say.

I imagine they would want them carried out as below in that order.

Oil
Ins 1
Oil
Ins 2
Oil
etc

Every 2 years maximum, regardless of mileage.

I personally would want the services to follow the above structure as a minimum on any M car I would buy and would walk away if they didn't. I am not your average buyer and am mega fussy so take my views with a pinch of salt.

Agreed plus the fluid changes that I mentioned earlier which aren’t covered as standard by BMW.

Now you are just making up your own service requirements.

BMW warranty isn’t an issue as long as the oil and brakes services are done every two years and inspection services are done on mileage.

If you don’t agree then fine, that’s up to you, but I’m happy following the service schedule as others do.