Not joined yet? Register for free and enjoy features such as alerts, private messaging and viewing latest posts and topics.

Tyre Age on low usage cars

"M" Specific discussion
User avatar
Dablk
Member
Member
Posts: 95
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:38 am

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Dablk » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:24 pm

Well this will be a first for me.

I'm replacing my fronts which a loads of tread for two reasons.

I had to do the rears last year when I swapped the car off the Cs wheels and back onto the 224's as they literally had no tread on them. Funds where tight at the time so I left conti fronts on and just PS4 on the rear. The fronts are 2008, so not only has the miss match bugged me but the age too. I have never had tyres of this age length this on a vehicle.

What do other folks do as far as drawing a line in the sand for age?
Image
| 07 Carbon Z4MC | Black Nappa | Carbon Leather |
| Oem 224 or CS Wheels In Anthracite | Loads of Toys | Iso Fix for Little One Days Out |
| 37K - June 17 |

User avatar
hopz121
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3711
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Guildford Surrey

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by hopz121 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:27 pm

5 years is the ideal limit really.
2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe - Manual - Silver Grey
2017 BMW F31 318d M-Sport - Auto - Glacier Silver
2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
2003 Renault Clio 172 Cup - Blue
2003 BMW E85 Z4 3.0i - Gone
2008 BMW E90 330i SE - Gone

gov
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1910
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:15 pm

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by gov » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:03 pm

5 years is probably about right - rubber deteriorates over time . I had a 1991 Lotus Elan with very low mileage - I bought it in 2009 - reckon the tyres were the originals - the first MOT in my ownership it passed but the tester said the tyres were so old they weren't "round" any more :rofl: :rofl:

User avatar
coupedan
Member
Member
Posts: 437
Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:37 pm
Location: West Berkshire

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by coupedan » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:09 pm

I replaced my OH's tyres on her SEAT after 3 years due to it only doing about 4k a year but it's left outside.
Tyres were perished but still had about 5-6mm on them.
Image

User avatar
Dablk
Member
Member
Posts: 95
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:38 am

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Dablk » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:12 pm

Yeah that was my gut and I really should have left it this long but knew it was going to sit in the garage over winter.
Hopefully a bit more front end grip might appear as well.
Image
| 07 Carbon Z4MC | Black Nappa | Carbon Leather |
| Oem 224 or CS Wheels In Anthracite | Loads of Toys | Iso Fix for Little One Days Out |
| 37K - June 17 |

User avatar
hopz121
Lifer
Lifer
Posts: 3711
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Guildford Surrey

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by hopz121 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:16 pm

You should notice a considerable difference when you do change them :thumbsup:
2004 BMW E46 M3 Coupe - Manual - Silver Grey
2017 BMW F31 318d M-Sport - Auto - Glacier Silver
2007 Porsche Cayman 2.7 - Manual - Arctic Silver
2003 Renault Clio 172 Cup - Blue
2003 BMW E85 Z4 3.0i - Gone
2008 BMW E90 330i SE - Gone

User avatar
Tyreman
Member
Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:01 pm
Location: Staffordshire

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Tyreman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:20 pm

Everything that has been said so far is correct, there is no legislation around the age of tyres but manufacturers won't take back any stock over two years old. The NTDA recommendations are stringent inspection at five years for signs of age and replacement at ten irrespective of condition, you should feel the benefit after changing as there is no doubt that yours will have deteriorated. :thumbsup:

User avatar
Dablk
Member
Member
Posts: 95
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:38 am

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Dablk » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:10 pm

Cheers mate,
Yeah my gut was saying 10 years is too long irrespective of how little use they must have had. Must be a nightmare with tyre on classics. Assume most classics probably run a real world set and a show set.
Image
| 07 Carbon Z4MC | Black Nappa | Carbon Leather |
| Oem 224 or CS Wheels In Anthracite | Loads of Toys | Iso Fix for Little One Days Out |
| 37K - June 17 |

Mangozac
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1103
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:33 am
Location: QLD, Australia
Contact:

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Mangozac » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:58 pm

They have claimed that it was old tyres that killed Paul Walker - the Porsche had just come out of storage for several years and the tyres had not been changed.

When I bought my Z4M in mid 2016 it had Pilot Super Sport tyres date stamped 2011 and still with most of their tread. Even then the grip was deteriorating but by late 2017 the rubber had gone so hard that they would break traction constantly and severely - the traction control would pull all of the engine power to recover. Still plenty of tread left but I felt they were no longer safe so I replaced them with PS4S and the difference was night and day!
Current: 06 E85 M Silbergrau
Previous: E85 3.0si Silbergrau, 03 E85 2.5i Maldives Blue.
Mods: Gaptech OTH+R, Dension Gateway 300 with USB, CDV-, clear side indicators, euro tails, stubby, MFSW retrofit, OEM Bluetooth/VR

User avatar
Havard
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1168
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:42 pm
Location: Wigan

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Havard » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:32 pm

I have just had all the tyres replaced by Pirelli on the Cayman. These were done under warranty and the car is 4 years old with 8k miles on the clock. Tyres are dated mid 2013.

Pirelli said they would replace any tyre over 6 years old under warranty as that is the expected maximum age.

H.
Last edited by Havard on Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
ImageImage

User avatar
Tyreman
Member
Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:01 pm
Location: Staffordshire

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Tyreman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:43 pm

Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:32 pmI have just had all the tyres replaced by Pirelli on the Cayman. These were done under warranty and the car is 4 years old with 8k miles on the clock. Tyres are dated mid 2013.

Pirelli said they would replace any tyre over 6 years old under warranty as that is the expected maximum age.

H.
Why did they replace them under warranty, was there a recall issued ?

User avatar
Havard
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1168
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:42 pm
Location: Wigan

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Havard » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:26 pm

Tyreman wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:43 pm
Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:32 pmI have just had all the tyres replaced by Pirelli on the Cayman. These were done under warranty and the car is 4 years old with 8k miles on the clock. Tyres are dated mid 2013.

Pirelli said they would replace any tyre over 6 years old under warranty as that is the expected maximum age.

H.
Why did they replace them under warranty, was there a recall issued ?
Sort of. There was cracking on the edges of the P Zeros. I rang Pirelli and asked them if they were safe and they said they would replace them.
ImageImage

User avatar
Tyreman
Member
Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:01 pm
Location: Staffordshire

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Tyreman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:31 pm

Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:26 pm
Tyreman wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:43 pm
Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:32 pmI have just had all the tyres replaced by Pirelli on the Cayman. These were done under warranty and the car is 4 years old with 8k miles on the clock. Tyres are dated mid 2013.

Pirelli said they would replace any tyre over 6 years old under warranty as that is the expected maximum age.

H.
Why did they replace them under warranty, was there a recall issued ?
Sort of. There was cracking on the edges of the P Zeros. I rang Pirelli and asked them if they were safe and they said they would replace them.
Well that's a massive win for you then :thumbsup:

User avatar
Havard
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1168
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:42 pm
Location: Wigan

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Havard » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:34 pm

Tyreman wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:31 pm
Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:26 pm
Tyreman wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:43 pm
Why did they replace them under warranty, was there a recall issued ?
Sort of. There was cracking on the edges of the P Zeros. I rang Pirelli and asked them if they were safe and they said they would replace them.
Well that's a massive win for you then :thumbsup:
Yep. Now got a Cayman with 8k miles on the clock and brand new, 20" P Zero tyres for free. I only noticed when I was shining them up after the stuff that Porsche used to tart it up on collection wore off.

Didn't start well though. I rang Pirelli customer services and said "My tyres are cracking.!!" They said "Thanks for the positive review..!!".... :tumbleweed:

H.
ImageImage

User avatar
Tyreman
Member
Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:01 pm
Location: Staffordshire

Tyre Age on low usage cars

Post by Tyreman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:42 pm

Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:34 pm
Tyreman wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:31 pm
Havard wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:26 pm Sort of. There was cracking on the edges of the P Zeros. I rang Pirelli and asked them if they were safe and they said they would replace them.
Well that's a massive win for you then :thumbsup:
Yep. Now got a Cayman with 8k miles on the clock and brand new, 20" P Zero tyres for free. I only noticed when I was shining them up after the stuff that Porsche used to tart it up on collection wore off.

Didn't start well though. I rang Pirelli customer services and said "My tyres are cracking.!!" They said "Thanks for the positive review..!!".... :tumbleweed:

H.
Terrible joke but definitely a stroke of luck :thumbsup:

There must be a known issue for them to be exchanged so freely but at the end of the day it's the best outcome for everyone to get them off and returned to the manufacturer. :driving:

Post Reply