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Post by ian in lancs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:36 pm

I have a Z4M shod with Coninental Sport Contact M3 tyres as fitted since new. The fronts are due for replacement and I can’t decide whether to just replace the fronts with the same tyre or switch all four to Michelin.

The choice seems to be

Michelin Pilot Super Sports - the ones BMW and Michelin recommend

Or

Michelin Pilot Sport 4 – the ones that seem to get the awards

Or

Michelin Pilot Sport 4s – are these the replacements for Michelin Pilot Super Sports (ETA these aren't available in the size I need)

What’s the best choice?
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Post by Tyreman » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:59 pm

Are the Continentals the originals from new ?

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Post by Dablk » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:11 pm

I dont believe the PS4S is availible in anything below 19".
I went for the PS4 as i have alwasy got on with Michelin. Read some chat about the PSS being a tad faster than ps4, on a perfect race track, in bone dry conditions. I dont see mich of that kind of road whenever i'm out and about.
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Post by Tyreman » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:13 pm

Whichever you choose I would recommend fitting a full set, all the Michelins mentioned are far newer technology than the Continentals.

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Post by ian in lancs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:20 pm

OK, I'll check size availability again

The fronts aren't the originals... the car has done 60k so I guess 3rd set of fronts, 4th set of rears.

Yep I'm changing all four
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Post by Tyreman » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:27 pm

I suppose it really depends on what you want from the tyre, pure performance, dry use only or is durability wet grip and mileage return any sort of consideration ?

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Post by flimper » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:29 pm

If you use the car all year round then get the PS4, the super sports don't like the cold
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Post by ian in lancs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:33 pm

Dablk wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:11 pmI dont believe the PS4S is availible in anything below 19".
I went for the PS4 as i have alwasy got on with Michelin. Read some chat about the PSS being a tad faster than ps4, on a perfect race track, in bone dry conditions. I dont see mich of that kind of road whenever i'm out and about.

Ah, you're right! It has 18" wheels so they're off the shopping list then!

the Z4M only gets used for fun and little in the winter / bad weather
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Post by Tyreman » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:44 pm

flimper wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:29 pm If you use the car all year round then get the PS4, the super sports don't like the cold
I would probably agree with the above..........performance will be substantially better than the Contis & they won't put you in a ditch when it's slightly chilly :driving:

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Post by T1berious » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:49 am

Contis are the OEM tyres I believe,

I've got Michelin Pilot Super Sports and they like cold a hell of a lot better than the Contis, much better in the wet to.
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Post by RedUn » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:16 pm

Another vote for super sports here, excellent tyres, probably not as all season as the PS4 though...
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Post by nickw6666 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:07 pm

I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports all round and they are superb, way batter than the Conti M3 original tyres.

Based on a summary I read from a Michelin Product Manager, the PS4 and PS4S are both developments of the PSS concept (dual compound etc). The PS4S is for 19" fit and above only, and is a very slightly more super sports focused tyre than the PS4. The PSS remains for OEM fitment sizes and is a little more focused on dry track performance than the PS4, with the PS4S being very similar in track performance to the PSS. But these are very small increments.

So for 18" fitment, it's either PSS or PS4. Either will be brilliant compared to Conti M3's. So it will probably be best to select based on usage unless you simply decide 'latest is greatest' etc.

If your driving is mainly fair weather in sun/rain, with occasional or regular track outings, I would go PSS. For anything else such as year round summer and winter driving and commuting as well as sports driving, I would go for the PS4.

But either will feel amazing compared to the contis.

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Post by mmm-five » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:48 pm

nickw6666 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:07 pmI have Michelin Pilot Super Sports all round and they are superb, way batter than the Conti M3 original tyres.

Based on a summary I read from a Michelin Product Manager, the PS4 and PS4S are both developments of the PSS concept (dual compound etc). The PS4S is for 19" fit and above only, and is a very slightly more super sports focused tyre than the PS4. The PSS remains for OEM fitment sizes and is a little more focused on dry track performance than the PS4, with the PS4S being very similar in track performance to the PSS. But these are very small increments.

So for 18" fitment, it's either PSS or PS4. Either will be brilliant compared to Conti M3's. So it will probably be best to select based on usage unless you simply decide 'latest is greatest' etc.

If your driving is mainly fair weather in sun/rain, with occasional or regular track outings, I would go PSS. For anything else such as year round summer and winter driving and commuting as well as sports driving, I would go for the PS4.

But either will feel amazing compared to the contis.

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Post by dannytheduck1985 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:20 pm

If it’s any good to you.
I was running contis on my M.
Whilst working at Continental U.K. (head Office), I got a conti tech technician to spec the correct tyre for my car. Based on the M stats they specified a sport contact 6 XL front (225/40/19) and sport contact 5P rear (255/35/19).
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Post by buzyg » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:26 pm

I switched out my conties several years ago. The MPSS is a brilliant partner for the MR. On my third set . Much better grip, more stable and far more controlable\predictable should they break away. :driving:
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