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Post by Truth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:36 pm

Need the torque setting for the cam cover nuts on the s54 engine cover, the chrome ones. Also the nuts that attach the oem strut brace to the brackets. Not the brackets to the strut top. Cheers guys. Also where I can find the torque settings in the future.
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Post by stevo///m3 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:48 pm

Someone will link you to the “TIS” setting book/sheet shortly I should imagine. I think I’ve seen it on here before. Why did you have the cover off?
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Post by AndyBeech » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:55 pm

Truth wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:36 pm Need the torque setting for the cam cover nuts on the s54 engine cover, the chrome ones. Also the nuts that attach the oem strut brace to the brackets. Not the brackets to the strut top. Cheers guys. Also where I can find the torque settings in the future.
Not sure on the strut brace, but if you mean the nuts for the black M plastic cover, just tighten by hand lightly with a ratchet is more than enough (you'll know when), they only hold on that cover after all.
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Post by Truth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:58 pm

The nuts that go onto the strut bolts are 28 n/m. No it’s the ones on the black that the cross bar goes onto.
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Post by Truth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:59 pm

stevo///m3 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:48 pmSomeone will link you to the “TIS” setting book/sheet shortly I should imagine. I think I’ve seen it on here before. Why did you have the cover off?
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Might take the carbon fibre cover off and replace with the original. Bought a brand new badge or the cover from bmw so going to put that off the carbon one onto the original. The carbon one has slight bubbling in the top layer doesn’t look bad but I want it to look perfect. If I do take it off the cover will be up for sale for cheap if no one wants it I’ll put it on the wall in the shed pub
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Post by TomK » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:33 pm

Oil drain plug: 18 ft-lbs
Oil filter housing cap bolt: 24 ft-lbs
Banjo bolt (side of valve cover): 18 ft-lbs (25 Nm)
Spark Plugs: 16 ft-lbs (22 Nm)
Cam Bolts: 10.3 ft-lbs (14 Nm )
Chain Tensioner bolt: 32mm 51.6 ft-lb (70nm)
Cylinder head bolts: E14 22.1 ft-lb (30nm)/90 degrees/90 degrees (see explanation in thread)
Engine mounts: 37 ft-lbs (49 Nm)
VANOS filter bolt: 20 ft-lbs
Oil pan bolts - 8.8 grade - 89 in-lbs (10 Nm)
10.9 grade - 106 in-lbs (12 Nm)
Tensioner: 18 ft. lbs. (24 Nm)
Idler Pulley: 33 ft. lbs (45 Nm)
Harmonic balancer M12x110 bolts: 44 ft-lbs (60 Nm) then 50 degrees and 50 degrees
Plastic ///M cover over valve cover: 89 in-lbs (10 Nm)

strut tower nuts: 25-26 ft-lbs (35 Nm)
strut bar nuts: 18 ft-lbs (24Nm)
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Post by Truth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:38 pm

TomK wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:33 pm Oil drain plug: 18 ft-lbs
Oil filter housing cap bolt: 24 ft-lbs
Banjo bolt (side of valve cover): 18 ft-lbs (25 Nm)
Spark Plugs: 16 ft-lbs (22 Nm)
Cam Bolts: 10.3 ft-lbs (14 Nm )
Chain Tensioner bolt: 32mm 51.6 ft-lb (70nm)
Cylinder head bolts: E14 22.1 ft-lb (30nm)/90 degrees/90 degrees (see explanation in thread)
Engine mounts: 37 ft-lbs (49 Nm)
VANOS filter bolt: 20 ft-lbs
Oil pan bolts - 8.8 grade - 89 in-lbs (10 Nm)
10.9 grade - 106 in-lbs (12 Nm)
Tensioner: 18 ft. lbs. (24 Nm)
Idler Pulley: 33 ft. lbs (45 Nm)
Harmonic balancer M12x110 bolts: 44 ft-lbs (60 Nm) then 50 degrees and 50 degrees
Plastic ///M cover over valve cover: 89 in-lbs (10 Nm)

strut tower nuts: 25-26 ft-lbs (35 Nm)
strut bar nuts: 18 ft-lbs (24Nm)

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TomK’s the man. Cheers dude. Where did u find them?
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Post by TomK » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:42 pm

lol, saved off some us e46m3 forum many years ago. I've double checked a few with tis and have no reason to doubt them.
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Post by Truth » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:03 pm

And now they are saved in my phone!

On a different point would love to try and get as many of the m coupes together this year and twist tomscotts arm to do some photos. Mainly to drool over your intake! But to have them together just for a bit to get the photos in the history books!
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Post by Mangozac » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:24 am

Truth wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:59 pmThe carbon one has slight bubbling in the top layer doesn’t look bad but I want it to look perfect. If I do take it off the cover will be up for sale for cheap if no one wants it I’ll put it on the wall in the shed pub
I'd be interested in the cover if you're happy to post to Australia. Will send you a PM :thumbsup:
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Post by Gustavo7 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:02 pm

Just for the record, you can find all the torque settings you need, and then some, on the following file:

http://d.pr/f/17gLN

Credit goes to Florian (Flow) from M3F.
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Post by TomK » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:52 pm

Gustavo7 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:02 pm Just for the record, you can find all the torque settings you need, and then some, on the following file:

http://d.pr/f/17gLN

Credit goes to Florian (Flow) from M3F.
Wow, that is awesome! Thanks for posting.
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Post by GuidoK » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:44 pm

There are I think some small inconsistencies in that document.
For instance the torque angle on the bolts of the reinforcement plate under the engine is 90 deg, not 90deg plus 30 deg.
90deg + 30deg is only for cars that have an reinforcement cross, not a reinforcement plate. In the document it is picted with the plate.
At least thats how I understand the way bmw intended it.
I think the difference is in that the cross is much thicker (so that bolt might also be longer) and as they're stretch bolts it would take a bigger torque angle on that cross to achieve the same stretch force than with the thin aluminium plate (which has 2 bolts there also)
But its quite a big differenct to torque something an extra 30deg or not.
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Post by TomK » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:05 pm

Do you think the inconsistency is related to the different chassis (e46) or just that it's incorrect?
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Post by GuidoK » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:31 pm

BMW TIS has for the e46 chassis both the procedure for the reinforcement cross as the reinforcement plate.

Cross:
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Picture of a somewhat more degraded version :lol:

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e46 m3 with the plate at the underside:

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Video of an e46 m3 underside (totally done up, a feast for the eye)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuz_shLxGcc

I have no idea if there are different verions with plate or cross or so (I dont even know if there are any e46 m3's with the cross, if not, it would be incorrect, otherwise an inconsistency I guess). All I know is that they need different tightening torques and thats what caught my eye, because its on the first page with pictures (I obviously havent checked the complete document, but on the first picture page there is an apparant inconsistency)

But the z4/z4m have a plate there, needing 59Nm +90deg on new bolts.
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