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Are ///M seats different to si sport seats?

Post by Tcochrane92 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:46 am

Just wondering what the differences are between the M sport seats and the ///M seats. So far I've noticed my ///M has the ///M badge and not much else

Any difference in material maybe?
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Post by 85genius » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:01 am

Si seats on individual trim can be specified in any leather so no necessary difference in material but the actual design is slightly different.

Don't have easy access to 2 photos right now but look at the bolster on both the //M has it as all 9ne piece whereas the si has extra stitching. Also as you mentioned no debossed //M logo on the si headrest
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Post by GuidoK » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:04 am

Embossed M badge on the m seats in the headrest and on the seating of the m sport seats there are 2 cosmetical stitching patterns.

On rare occasions the m sport seats are fitted with an embossed piece of leather (cosmetic reasons I think) in the backrest:
M sport seats with the embossed piece
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M seats:
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I think that last feature is only for cars fitted with extended leather.
I have that embossed piece of leather too.

Materials (leather) can differ. M sport seats can be had in a range of 2 tone colours from the individual line.
Both M seats and M sportseats come in leathertype 'New england' (m seats black, msportseats black, red, and all bicolours) and leathertype 'walknappa' (M seats colours, and all coloured individual m sport seats), and I think you can even have the m sport seats in cloth or at least half leather.

Als the seatbelt guide can differ. The pre facelift seats (pre facelift m sport seats) have a thick guide:
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Facelift chairs (m sportseats and m seats) have thin guides:

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Post by Monaco84 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:12 am

guidoK mentions almost everything

I would only like to add that Z4M-Seats may come without the embossed m badge in case the first buyer of the car configurated his M without badges on the outside.

The Z4M-Seats come with a double stitching.

si-M-Seats may come with half leather. There should be no cloth only option. The standard leathertype of si-M-Seats is called Oregon leather.

There are facelift and prefacelift versions of si-M-Seats with different seat belt guides...
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Post by buzyg » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:09 pm

:o Dusty, mucky seats in those phoro's.. :telloff: They are doing my ADHD head in. :wink:
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Post by GuidoK » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:16 pm

buzyg wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:09 pm :o Dusty, mucky seats
Lol no... thats just a little bit of dust. Thats what a week of tuscany does to your car, at least when you dare to ride the backroads at a mans pace. 5min vacuum job.

Wanna see mucky seats?
Enjoy :lol:

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Post by tomscott » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:43 pm

Not all M seats have the M logo. Individual extended leathers are New England leather - champagne and amarone doesn't have an M logo, have a feeling the two tones might be the same.

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Post by GuidoK » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:50 pm

Are there any individual seats with /m logo?
From what I know there's only a generic individual brochure, not a seperate m individual brochure so I think they all picking from the same individual parts stock.

The seat in your picture isnt an M seat but a M sports seat (note the stitching on seat and bolster), which can be fitted to a z4m through the individual program..
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Post by tomscott » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:54 pm

GuidoK wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:50 pm Are there any individual seats with /m logo?
From what I know there's only a generic individual brochure, not a seperate m individual brochure so I think they all picking from the same individual parts stock.
Some are new england so maybe thats the reason.

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Post by GuidoK » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:56 pm

I wonder if its this complicated as well on other bmw models where seats look almost identical with the exception of a small stitching seam or a little platch of embossed leather.... :?
Or is it just the z4 ? :rofl:
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Post by Tcochrane92 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:03 pm

I am thoroughly confused... :rofl:
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Post by Marlon » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:16 pm

I have retro-fitted ///M seats in mine with the ///M logo and thought I knew the difference until I read tom's post saying that some ///M seats don't have the logo on the headrest - his picture also shows stitching on the seat base that I thought were only on the M Sport seats as Guidok points out :?
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Post by tomscott » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:27 pm

So I think the leathers that dont have the embossed logo are all the individual Ext leathers and bi colour

Syrah blue
Armarone
Champagne
Caramel

Although ive never seen an M with Syrah or Caramel leather only 3.0SI

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Post by buzyg » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:34 pm

GuidoK wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:16 pm
buzyg wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:09 pm :o Dusty, mucky seats
Wanna see mucky seats?
Enjoy :lol:

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Well it's all as clear to me as the above seat now.... :? :rofl: :D
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