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Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:39 pm
by Zed Five
cj10jeeper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:11 pm
I did smile when I saw this earlier in the year. Hard to believe BMW would not stick that on the dash to increase intrigue or throw people off the scent.
I think that a little like the Audi TT, there will be premium options with 6 cyl and the sexy tft binnacle and 4 cyl with cheaper interior. Note the lack of leather seats. Either way, if its within £10k of a used i8, the Z4 may not be that enticing.
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:02 pm
by Simon20VT
cj10jeeper wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:28 pm
Simon20VT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:53 pm
Angelus666 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:45 pm
Remember 911's are now pretty much £100k out of the showroom, and Boxsters are £60kish...it'll try to steal sales from the unloved 718...and will probably be very successful.
I'm not so sure. It will more than likely be berated for the same reasons as the 718 - for being too expensive for a 4 cylinder
I think the new F-Type has a problem with that, too.
Agree that the F Type is getting in trouble on the user websites and I was not having a 4cylinder Porsche. With the F Type basically a 300hp 4 cylinder for a few grand less than a V6 supercharged 340hp. Doesn't fit the image of high end sports cars either. Still neither did diesels, hybrids, autos and a whole host of other stuff, but we accept it and will have to on sports cars to allow manufactures to shift metal and comply with Co2 restrictions.
It will be interesting to see where BMW end up taking this between concept and showroom in slimming down to a price point or moving upmarket for less sales but more valuable ones. I think the latter
The four cylinder in the 718 doesn't bother me tbh. At least all the range are four cylinder and it gives a distinction between the 911, which has been a long time coming to draw a line between the two models. It's still much better than the Z4's four cylinder. But, like you said, that's just how things are going regarding emissions etc. Eventually we won't have combustion engines so it seems to be the price of "progress". The number of new cars in the sub £40k or maybe even £50k bracket, certainly seems to have dwindled in the past few years.
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:40 pm
by kis
Sae wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:36 pm
kis wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:20 pm
Sae wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:23 pm
Now were talking!
If someone could photoshop this in stratus grey or silver with some CSLs or m3/4 competition wheels.
Coupe looks much better IMO. Be nice to see a diff colour... que photoshop pro's!
Not photoshop but b&w to give an example of greyscale curves, better than the irn bru orange
Much better!!
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:33 am
by Sae
If BMW are wondering whether to put a tin top on the new z4, then I hope theyve been to the aston stand... #breadvanrevival
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:07 pm
by nick_z4
Simon20VT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:22 pm
Looks great. Very curious about the price point this will be released in. A lot of previous press has suggested they will be raising the entry level price quite significantly over the previous model. It looks a lot more premium than any BMW at the old E89's price point. I've seen one more recent price suggestion at a £35K starting point, which seems unrealistic.
You'll probably find it'll be a similar weight to the E85 (with all the new lightweight materials) and so i suspect it'll be just as Nimble - i'd like to see any new Z4M south of 1400kg
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:12 am
by markalp
It looks interesting, however I have a few problems with all new cars, first they have far to much technology built in which makes them an absolute nightmare for long term ownership (over 10 years), and second they are designed by comittee.
This can clearly be seen in the concept, someone saw the front lower bumper intakes off the merc and added those, then another comittee member remembered the bonnet vents off the TVRs and those were added, then they remembered it is a Z4 so added the Z4 side lines.
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:20 pm
by chasBMW
SadlyI think this will be much bigger than e89 so not for me , nice looking though
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:47 pm
by PerryGunn
chasBMW wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:20 pm
SadlyI think this will be much bigger than e89...
I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with that (at the moment anyway) - I know that the only thing that's been shown is the concept car and a lot of things can change between the concept and the production model but, from the photos I've seen of people standing around the concept car, to my eyes at least, it actually looks slightly smaller than the E89
...time will tell...
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:17 pm
by Nictrix
Is there really much difference between the 2 models anyway?
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:38 pm
by Zed Five
Nictrix wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:17 pm
Is there really much difference between the 2 models anyway?
not when the E89 is further away
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:00 am
by Nictrix
Zed Five wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:38 pm
Nictrix wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:17 pm
Is there really much difference between the 2 models anyway?
not when the E89 is further away
6 inches longer
half an inch wider
half an inch lower
Just a shame its heavier.
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:01 am
by Citation 650
It was a great week.
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:45 am
by chasBMW
PerryGunn wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:47 pm
chasBMW wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:20 pm
SadlyI think this will be much bigger than e89...
I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with that (at the moment anyway) - I know that the only thing that's been shown is the concept car and a lot of things can change between the concept and the production model but, from the photos I've seen of people standing around the concept car, to my eyes at least, it actually looks slightly smaller than the E89
...time will tell...
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Morning I bought Autocar yesterday and BMW are quoted as saying that its largerin an attempt to position it more upmarket which makes me wonder about price , its a bit dissapointing this obssesion with ever larger cars
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:08 pm
by TitanTim
I wish BMW would prduce a proper roadster/sports car in a similar vein to the MX5/Lotus Elan thats compact and lightweight instead of producing lardy efforts that are no good except for cruising. When I owned the E89 at no point did it ever feel like a sporty roadster, my Z3 was better in that respect. The new Z4 looks to be going exactly the same way.
I'll be looking for another roadster in 3 years time and might go for the MX5 as they seem to be the only manufacturer who can do it properly without it costing a fortune.
Tim.
Z4 Pebble Beach Images released
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:12 am
by sunnydays
Seeing recent shots im convinced the car will not look that much like the concept and will be heavily toned down, which is a shame.