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Post by john-e89 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:01 pm

I guess some of you know I rejected a cognac interior car this year after a mix up with spec lockdown, or lack of it, dates. The very first G29 I saw was at a launch ‘do’ in spring 2019 with cognac, and I thought it was pretty smart tbh, a few months later I saw a black G29 with Magna red interior and as much as black and red is my fav combo the red was just too bright, even orange and being honest I couldn’t see how I could live with it if I bought a Zed. Forward to a few months ago in the dealers and looking at swatches I thought these colours have changed since launch, they’re toned down, indeed looking at the sales guys Magna red in his company car the difference in tone was striking, even he agreed they looked different and had had the same conversation with colleagues a few weeks earlier. Anyhoo the reason for this ramble is I’ve just stumbled on a photo of the ‘new’ Cognac which I’ve not seen before in pics and just shows the difference in the two tones and to me anyway confirms what I said about it being washed out now, these two pics are very accurate in tone from what I’ve experienced hence this post, I’d be very interested if anyone that thinks the ‘Washed out’ Cognac looks better than the ‘Original’. There could be a little filter going on but truly these pics represent the difference to what I’ve experienced very very closely. The first pic is identical to the car I rejected, it was at the dealers when I went to thrash out a deal. :thumbsup:
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Post by mr.tourette » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:05 pm

like it in the top pic..not as keen on it in the bottom one looks a bit too orange in tone although probably more true cognac all this stuff is very personal though innit, I think the top pic looks fantastic and would plump for that over red
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Post by Smartbear » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:09 pm

Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
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Post by Zedebee » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:09 pm

Top pic isn’t really Cognac is it? You wouldn’t buy a bottle that colour.
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Post by mr wilks » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:12 pm

Smartbear wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:09 pm Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
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Isnt the lower pic just like your own trim in the E89 Rob :wink: :oops: looks class anyway , the top pic looking more like the early E85 "beige" :cry:
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:13 pm

mr.tourette wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:05 pm like it in the top pic..not keen on it in the bottom one looks a bit too orange in tone although probably more true cognac all this stuff is very personal though innit, I think the top pic looks fantastic and would plump for that over red
Looks so washed out in the flesh Steve, but hey if you prefer that to the deeper colour then cool. :thumbsup:
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:14 pm

mr wilks wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:12 pm
Smartbear wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:09 pm Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
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Isnt the lower pic just like your own trim in the E89 Rob :wink: :oops: looks class anyway , the top pic looking more like the early E85 "beige" :cry:
It does indeed, Ive had the same interior as the Bear and the bottom pic is very close to the E89 Walnut.
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Post by mr.tourette » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:21 pm

john-e89 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:13 pm
mr.tourette wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:05 pm like it in the top pic..not keen on it in the bottom one looks a bit too orange in tone although probably more true cognac all this stuff is very personal though innit, I think the top pic looks fantastic and would plump for that over red

Looks so washed out in the flesh Steve, but hey if you prefer that to the deeper colour then cool. :thumbsup:
I guess I do like a light interior, its why i sought out an e89 with ivory white..I would say though if I wanted cognac and got the top pic I wouldn't be impressed as it is not cognac at all really, as Andy points out it is definitely more beige but that said I think it looks very nice and is a great contrast to the blacks in the cabin..not sure I'd compare it to the early e85 beiges though as some of those did look a bit putrid :D
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Post by Stevo1987 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:43 pm

I don't like either tbh.
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Post by Smartbear » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:47 pm

john-e89 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:14 pm
mr wilks wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:12 pm
Smartbear wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:09 pm Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
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Isnt the lower pic just like your own trim in the E89 Rob :wink: :oops: looks class anyway , the top pic looking more like the early E85 "beige" :cry:
It does indeed, Ive had the same interior as the Bear and the bottom pic is very close to the E89 Walnut.
Yes, it’s a subconscious thing i suspect-we revert to what we already like :?
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Post by Jollyjoiner » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:11 pm

I'm not keen on the top picture, the bottom one is very nice though (so you saying they don't actually do the bottom one) ?
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Post by dr_john » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:30 pm

who cares?
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Post by GuidoK » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:59 pm

As far as colours go I never use pictures as a reference as they're always off.
Regarding the 2 pics: I can immediately see that the white balance and contrast is not the same unless their black colours have also changed :lol:
(there's also an incredible amount of compression so the pictures themselves are of increcibly low quality to begin with)
So getting conclusive facts out of these pictures is imho a bit useless.
Get the 2 cars together in 1 picture.
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:36 pm

GuidoK wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:59 pm As far as colours go I never use pictures as a reference as they're always off.
Regarding the 2 pics: I can immediately see that the white balance and contrast is not the same unless their black colours have also changed :lol:
(there's also an incredible amount of compression so the pictures themselves are of increcibly low quality to begin with)
So getting conclusive facts out of these pictures is imho a bit useless.
Get the 2 cars together in 1 picture.
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If you read my post I’ve seen both in the flesh and the pics are the best representation of each that I’ve found as stated.
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:38 pm

Jollyjoiner wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:11 pm I'm not keen on the top picture, the bottom one is very nice though (so you saying they don't actually do the bottom one) ?
Not anymore Nige no, if the 2020 car I saw that I initially specced is anything to go by.... :wink:
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