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Post by mr wilks » Sat May 18, 2019 8:54 am

We have a watch thread for other Z models so here's one for the latest Z4
Over 50 cars currently available on AT , to get a grasp here's a example of 20i , 30i & 40i on offer 18th May 2019

820m 20i Sytner Cardiff £34,500 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0hr&page=1

10m 30i Sytner Newport £42k https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0hr&page=3

del miles 40i Peter Vardy Edinburgh £44990 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0hr&page=4
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Post by greg81 » Sat May 18, 2019 9:01 am

Peter Vardy. It's not been Reg Vardy for at least a decade :D

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Post by mr wilks » Sat May 18, 2019 9:13 am

greg81 wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 9:01 am Peter Vardy. It's not been Reg Vardy for at least a decade :D
:D not even hungover :P
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Post by mr wilks » Sat May 18, 2019 9:18 am

1 owner 1500 mile :? 30i £40k Cooper Croydon https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... 19/9657641
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Post by 2dogs » Sat May 18, 2019 9:26 am

When are you adding one too your list Mr Wilks :driving:
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Post by mr wilks » Sat May 18, 2019 9:33 am

2dogs wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 9:26 am When are you adding one too your list Mr Wilks :driving:
Hhmmm :oops: let me come back to you on that one :P
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Post by Z4monster » Sat May 18, 2019 6:08 pm

Looks like the Peter Vardy one has gone already.
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Post by buzyg » Sat May 18, 2019 7:21 pm

Early days. I like the new Zed but there is plenty of life left in my old /// MR. :)
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Post by Z4monster » Fri May 24, 2019 4:56 pm

Just seen this one on Autotrader: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 9qs&page=1

BUt when I chatted with them, apparently it's sold. Despite me not telling them which BMW I was talking about on their website. Seemed a little too cheap for a first edition car at £41k
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Post by Pyranha » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:59 pm

We are a few months in to G29's being delivered to the UK and there is plenty of ex-demos starting to appear on Autotrader - 144 used cars in total as of 5-Aug-19. 88 of them are the 20i's which i assume will do the best on pcp deals. Some examples below.

M40i - Plenty at just Sub £40k. I am sure those over could be haggled:
Stephen James BMW Woolwich 3.8k miles £38,995 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6189140506
Williams Bmw Stockport 4.2k miles £39,480 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 7310659101
Cooper Cobham BMW 3.4k miles £39,830 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 5087748877


30i - Looks like they are around the £36K mark
Marshall BMW Scunthorpe 2.5k miles £35,950 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6138987078
Stratstone BMW Derby 100 miles £35,990 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6289510274
Cooper Cobham BMW 1.6k miles £36,030 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 5087748897


20i - Just over £30k is the lowest
Stratstone Bmw Hull 100 miles £30,400 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 7029646782
Stratstone Bmw Harrogate 100 miles £30,400 milhttps://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201906299527318
Stratstone Bmw Derby 100 miles £30,650 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 6289510287

Once the M40i's get to £32K'ish I think I will be very tempted (would love a 6 cylinder)! Does not look like it will take long.

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Post by J400uk » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:25 pm

There was an M40i up for £37k last week but it went pretty fast!

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Post by Chris1712 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:42 pm

I do think the values will be even worse than the E89, competition is too stiff and IMO hasn't really moved the marque on.
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Post by tomscott » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:59 pm

The word on the grapevine is they have been axed... Will be the last Z4 apparently

https://jalopnik.com/the-bmw-z4-could-g ... 1836828402
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Post by -Tom- » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:51 pm

tomscott wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:59 pm The word on the grapevine is they have been axed... Will be the last Z4 apparently

https://jalopnik.com/the-bmw-z4-could-g ... 1836828402
Yep. along with the TT, and SLC (SLK).

It makes sense to trim the range otherwise. Their lineup is ridiculous at the moment ... 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8 series , then the GT variants, gran coupes, X versions of almost every model. It's insane :tumbleweed:

The Z4 is an odd one. From the moment I saw it in the flesh in the showroom, it looked and felt to me like a 2 seater, 4 series convertible. Have a think about that, I promise it makes sense :?
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Post by tomscott » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:36 pm

The thing is BMW make niche products for niche owners but they don't appeal to niche owners because they are all average to drive.

I completely agree and was my argument with the E89 too. Why would you buy a 2 seater sports car where you compromise on practicality when it drives about the same as a 3 series... The Z4M is a good example its a niche car but its a great car to drive... the new gen cars all drive the same there is no real difference in experience.

I suppose you buy it for looks... I have to be honest im not a hater of the new design but its not exactly a masterpiece either. I suppose putting my money where my mouth is, again I dont think £54k for what you get is expensive compared to the 718, but I still wouldn't buy it.

The M2 is the only car in the line that remotely appeals because it feels like a modern E46 otherwise I feel the range just blends into the rest of the cars on the road. Product of their own success.

Without an M variant there is no heritage or aspiration either.

The fact the legendary M3 coupe is now called the M4 and the M3 is now a saloon is a perfect example of disastrous marketing.

Its the same across the range. SUVs X1/2/3/4/5/6/7 are they all really necessary!? They need to cull the range and go back to basics making a more limited but excellent range. I feel like BMW are similar to Apple... going through a period where it could easily see the end of the golden era.

Although its a bit more complicated as we are heading into the electric age and BMWs additions have been a big swing and miss.
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