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Z4 & 718 Cayman comparison review

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Post by Angelus666 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:07 am

Lost its credibility at "The first Z4 was an abomination from the Bangle House of Horror."

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Post by Tinker15 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:18 am

Oh I don’t know, he could have a point! :fuelfire:
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Post by J400uk » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:13 pm

Nice write up, seems quite positive about the new Z! I hadn’t realised it’s as quick as an M4 Convertible 0-60

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Post by Jim S » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:50 pm

Anyone considering buying the new Z4 should read this review.

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Post by tomscott » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:37 pm

Good write up. Does exactly what you expect and the fact there are stand out positives over the 718... some are glaring obvious issues like the 4 pot, really speaks volumes.

The value proposition too. They say 3k either side for a non S and S varient, really you get nothing with any Porsche and everything is an optional extra. If you fully spec a Cayman or Boxster you quickly end up in the £70ks the Z4 m40 is £53k all in with everything ticked on the list, many of the extras are far better implemented than the Porsche.

When you consider that a 718 with the definitive must have extras could easily be 65k and the Z4 is 12k or 20% cheaper with everything it makes it a relative bargain.

On the other hand BMWs depreciate much quicker but then again this generation of Porsche has probably been the most disliked since the 996 so who knows where the values will be. Safe to say the Z4 will be in the mid 20s in 2 1/2 3 years.

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Post by Jim S » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:47 pm

Well said. Can’t agree more.

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Post by john-e89 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:17 pm

It is true indeed, and you’re into the middle 70’s at that for a Porsche which matches the Zed on spec. If you add the carbon brakes it’s hit 80k, and that’s not an S either..... :o
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Post by Zeld4 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm

tomscott wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:37 pm Good write up. Does exactly what you expect and the fact there are stand out positives over the 718... some are glaring obvious issues like the 4 pot, really speaks volumes.

The value proposition too. They say 3k either side for a non S and S varient, really you get nothing with any Porsche and everything is an optional extra. If you fully spec a Cayman or Boxster you quickly end up in the £70ks the Z4 m40 is £53k all in with everything ticked on the list, many of the extras are far better implemented than the Porsche.

When you consider that a 718 with the definitive must have extras could easily be 65k and the Z4 is 12k or 20% cheaper with everything it makes it a relative bargain.

On the other hand BMWs depreciate much quicker but then again this generation of Porsche has probably been the most disliked since the 996 so who knows where the values will be. Safe to say the Z4 will be in the mid 20s in 2 1/2 3 years.
Still the same old drivel coming from you Scott. I remeber on a past post of mine you said that the reason there was so much back lash about the new Z4 was because people on this forum couldn’t afford it. I mean come on Tommy, are you really that retarded? Stop being so high and mighty and let others starte their opinion without you thinking for some reason you know best. So what,, you owned nice MC, but you really do go on like you know it all.

If you don’t like forum people, as you say you don’t, just bugger off. Forums are places where people can say what they like without people like you belittling people. Honestly Scotty, you need to get off your high horse and stop being so pious.

Go and get your camera out and take a picture of the new Z4 and make it look good. If you can do that then you are a good photographer.

Cheers Tommy

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Post by sunnydays » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:34 pm

I read this "review" earlier, I can not say I agree with much of it.

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Post by buzyg » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:42 pm

Zeld4 wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm
tomscott wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:37 pm Good write up. Does exactly what you expect and the fact there are stand out positives over the 718... some are glaring obvious issues like the 4 pot, really speaks volumes.

The value proposition too. They say 3k either side for a non S and S varient, really you get nothing with any Porsche and everything is an optional extra. If you fully spec a Cayman or Boxster you quickly end up in the £70ks the Z4 m40 is £53k all in with everything ticked on the list, many of the extras are far better implemented than the Porsche.

When you consider that a 718 with the definitive must have extras could easily be 65k and the Z4 is 12k or 20% cheaper with everything it makes it a relative bargain.

On the other hand BMWs depreciate much quicker but then again this generation of Porsche has probably been the most disliked since the 996 so who knows where the values will be. Safe to say the Z4 will be in the mid 20s in 2 1/2 3 years.
Still the same old drivel coming from you Scott. I remeber on a past post of mine you said that the reason there was so much back lash about the new Z4 was because people on this forum couldn’t afford it. I mean come on Tommy, are you really that retarded? Stop being so high and mighty and let others starte their opinion without you thinking for some reason you know best. So what,, you owned nice MC, but you really do go on like you know it all.

If you don’t like forum people, as you say you don’t, just bugger off. Forums are places where people can say what they like without people like you belittling people. Honestly Scotty, you need to get off your high horse and stop being so pious.

Go and get your camera out and take a picture of the new Z4 and make it look good. If you can do that then you are a good photographer.

Cheers Tommy
Strange reaction to a very level headed post. :? I would have to agree with Tom on pretty much every level. I bought my Zed for less than half price with 12k on the clock at 2 1\2 years old. At the time I could no way buy a similar age / speck coxter. :wink:
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Post by Zeld4 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:00 am

buzyg wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:42 pm
Zeld4 wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm
tomscott wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:37 pm Good write up. Does exactly what you expect and the fact there are stand out positives over the 718... some are glaring obvious issues like the 4 pot, really speaks volumes.

The value proposition too. They say 3k either side for a non S and S varient, really you get nothing with any Porsche and everything is an optional extra. If you fully spec a Cayman or Boxster you quickly end up in the £70ks the Z4 m40 is £53k all in with everything ticked on the list, many of the extras are far better implemented than the Porsche.

When you consider that a 718 with the definitive must have extras could easily be 65k and the Z4 is 12k or 20% cheaper with everything it makes it a relative bargain.

On the other hand BMWs depreciate much quicker but then again this generation of Porsche has probably been the most disliked since the 996 so who knows where the values will be. Safe to say the Z4 will be in the mid 20s in 2 1/2 3 years.
Still the same old drivel coming from you Scott. I remeber on a past post of mine you said that the reason there was so much back lash about the new Z4 was because people on this forum couldn’t afford it. I mean come on Tommy, are you really that retarded? Stop being so high and mighty and let others starte their opinion without you thinking for some reason you know best. So what,, you owned nice MC, but you really do go on like you know it all.

If you don’t like forum people, as you say you don’t, just bugger off. Forums are places where people can say what they like without people like you belittling people. Honestly Scotty, you need to get off your high horse and stop being so pious.

Go and get your camera out and take a picture of the new Z4 and make it look good. If you can do that then you are a good photographer.

Cheers Tommy
Strange reaction to a very level headed post. :? I would have to agree with Tom on pretty much every level. I bought my Zed for less than half price with 12k on the clock at 2 1\2 years old. At the time I could no way buy a similar age / speck coxter. :wink:
I think what I have said is nothing to do with future. Z4 pricing

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Post by MrPT » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:12 am

An encouraging conclusion from that review but didn’t like the style of it much. Seems to jump between newspaper motoring column and half-baked attempts at serious analysis of the handling etc.
Zeld4 wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm Still the same old drivel coming from you Scott. I remeber on a past post of mine you said that the reason there was so much back lash about the new Z4 was because people on this forum couldn’t afford it. I mean come on Tommy, are you really that retarded?
His point, which was a good one, was that the forum has a natural bias towards people looking to buy secondhand; not that people don’t like the new Z4 because they can’t afford it.
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:58 am

Can’t agree with the first Zed looks comment though....

It’s still an awesome looking car imho...

It’ll be soooo interesting to try this new car, apart from a little bit less agility perhaps, or not, it’ll kick sand in my 981’s face..... :lol:
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Post by Tinker15 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:19 am

What a strange and intemperate rant by @Zeld4 against an innocuous post by @tomscott. I’m not sure what it was all about unless there is some hidden agenda. It would appear that the writer has an obsession against the G29 and although he can slag it off at every opportunity anyone who even mildly supports it is subject to a torrent of vitriol. Perhaps Zeld4 should take a chill pill as I’m not sure any car is worth getting you knickers in such a twist about!
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