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The missing buttresses on the Z4 vs concept makes a big difference. Not sure why that was omitted - assuming it actually worked with a folding soft top in the first place?? Other than that it looks like it's had a few pies since the concept, especially the arse but the smaller wheels also add to that impression.
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I have said this before, but that's not going to stop me saying it again:
Why oh why do the manufacturers do this? Once they have the concept car built they know damn well what the finished version is going to look like. All this serves to do is to disappoint when the final version is released. Do the manufacturers really think that the publicity around the concept outweighs the disappointment when we see the finished article. I am not interested in how clever & creative their designers are, I want to see how they can combine their cleverness and creativity with actually making a real car!
The concept car had me counting the contents of my piggy bank. The finished version means that I revert to plan A - to keep the Z4MR for ever.
Why oh why do the manufacturers do this? Once they have the concept car built they know damn well what the finished version is going to look like. All this serves to do is to disappoint when the final version is released. Do the manufacturers really think that the publicity around the concept outweighs the disappointment when we see the finished article. I am not interested in how clever & creative their designers are, I want to see how they can combine their cleverness and creativity with actually making a real car!
The concept car had me counting the contents of my piggy bank. The finished version means that I revert to plan A - to keep the Z4MR for ever.
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I reckon there's quite a lot of design elements carried over to the production car, if you look closely enough...
- non-slatted grills at the front
- duckbill spoiler at the rear
- vertical rear bumper vents
- air breathers at the side
- horizontal tail lights
- stacked daytime running lights at the front
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You are right in what you are saying about certain points being carried over but they change along the way.Z4 Beemer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:06 pm I reckon there's quite a lot of design elements carried over to the production car, if you look closely enough...
- non-slatted grills at the front
- duckbill spoiler at the rear
- vertical rear bumper vents
- air breathers at the side
- horizontal tail lights
Things like the side door mirrors would never make it into production from a safety/legal point of view. I don't think the concept has any form of roof either.
- stacked daytime running lights at the front
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Looking at those pics the production car looks like last years model with the concept being next years model.
Whats with the massive sculpt out the bumper for the reg plate?
And the tail pipes look ridiculous.
Why did they change the door handles from previous models that looked better?
The grill on the concept looks like it goes inwards whereas the production car it looks like its stuck on the front like big fake lips.
Looking between the two pictures from the front angles the concept looks mean and the production car looks bland.
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If the concept looks like a 911, the production car looks like a convertible Beetle!
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Nail and head. We were ready to get the moths out of my wallet and get the new Supra when it came out. After having two MKIV Supras I was going to swap the MR for the new model. Looks like it is going to be not even close to the concept and no manual so I am out.RickRob wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:51 pm I have said this before, but that's not going to stop me saying it again:
Why oh why do the manufacturers do this? Once they have the concept car built they know damn well what the finished version is going to look like. All this serves to do is to disappoint when the final version is released. Do the manufacturers really think that the publicity around the concept outweighs the disappointment when we see the finished article. I am not interested in how clever & creative their designers are, I want to see how they can combine their cleverness and creativity with actually making a real car!
The concept car had me counting the contents of my piggy bank. The finished version means that I revert to plan A - to keep the Z4MR for ever.
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Marketing material keeps showing the m40i. Wonder what the standard m-sport will look like and also the non-msport (if they'll be having one).
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I thought I read somewhere that the msport would be the standard model.
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Thanks for that! Looks like there will be a 'Sport', an M Sport and then the M40i.Pbondar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:05 pmHere are your answers for the UK!
https://www.bmw.co.uk/bmw-cars/z4
The Sport looks like a real let down - that front bumper doesn't do it for me. And visually, I don't think the M40i differentiates itself enough from the M Sport.
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I've had similar thoughtsRickRob wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:51 pm I have said this before, but that's not going to stop me saying it again:
Why oh why do the manufacturers do this? Once they have the concept car built they know damn well what the finished version is going to look like. All this serves to do is to disappoint when the final version is released. Do the manufacturers really think that the publicity around the concept outweighs the disappointment when we see the finished article. I am not interested in how clever & creative their designers are, I want to see how they can combine their cleverness and creativity with actually making a real car!
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And whilst I am in ranting mode, when will BMW wake up and realise that their use of "M" has a) caused confusion and b) devalued the real "M" brand?
Indeed they lost the plot with the advent of turbos. You knew/know where you are with the E85/86. If they haven't lost the plot, then I certainly have! I cannot accept that a 40i hasn't got a 4 litre engine. Or am I simply failing to keep up?
Indeed they lost the plot with the advent of turbos. You knew/know where you are with the E85/86. If they haven't lost the plot, then I certainly have! I cannot accept that a 40i hasn't got a 4 litre engine. Or am I simply failing to keep up?
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Totally agree, what does the 40 represent? A 335 is a 330 with an extra turbo. So does the 40 represent the 3.0 plus 2 x 5 for each turbo?RickRob wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:10 pm And whilst I am in ranting mode, when will BMW wake up and realise that their use of "M" has a) caused confusion and b) devalued the real "M" brand?
Indeed they lost the plot with the advent of turbos. You knew/know where you are with the E85/86. If they haven't lost the plot, then I certainly have! I cannot accept that a 40i hasn't got a 4 litre engine. Or am I simply failing to keep up?
The ///M situation is a farce and has devalued the “real ///M” cars imo. You see the badge everywhere now, it’s crazy.
A friend of mine has just bought a 116 M-sport, really nice car. Whilst talking in the pub, I asked if he’d ever seen a 1M, as it’s a car I really like. He replied that his car is 1M, just with a smaller engine :headbang
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Almost all my friends/colleagues seem to think they have an M car or AMG if it has the badge on the back. When I had the CSL my mate genuinely thought his MSport 320 convertible was the same car as mine, but in convertible form. I guess from a marketing perspective, they've done a great job increasing sales by simply sticking a badge on a bog standard car, but for enthusiasts, it does make you want to leave the brand in search of something more unique.
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And ref those images/versions above....they look so dull and boring, I don't think I'll even bother to test drive one of the new ones. Shame.