I think I prefer the front end on the basic sport model, it looks lighter & less fussy than the M sport versions?
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Wait are you telling me my msport isn't a real M car?!dans6490 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:29 pmTotally agree, what does the 40 represent? A 335 is a 330 with an extra turbo. So does the 40 represent the 3.0 plus 2 x 5 for each turbo?RickRob wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:10 pm And whilst I am in ranting mode, when will BMW wake up and realise that their use of "M" has a) caused confusion and b) devalued the real "M" brand?
Indeed they lost the plot with the advent of turbos. You knew/know where you are with the E85/86. If they haven't lost the plot, then I certainly have! I cannot accept that a 40i hasn't got a 4 litre engine. Or am I simply failing to keep up?
The ///M situation is a farce and has devalued the “real ///M” cars imo. You see the badge everywhere now, it’s crazy.
A friend of mine has just bought a 116 M-sport, really nice car. Whilst talking in the pub, I asked if he’d ever seen a 1M, as it’s a car I really like. He replied that his car is 1M, just with a smaller engine :headbang
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PMSL at the last bit of this. There is a guy at work who swears is car is an AMG Merc...and it’s a diesel.dans6490 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:29 pmTotally agree, what does the 40 represent? A 335 is a 330 with an extra turbo. So does the 40 represent the 3.0 plus 2 x 5 for each turbo?RickRob wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:10 pm And whilst I am in ranting mode, when will BMW wake up and realise that their use of "M" has a) caused confusion and b) devalued the real "M" brand?
Indeed they lost the plot with the advent of turbos. You knew/know where you are with the E85/86. If they haven't lost the plot, then I certainly have! I cannot accept that a 40i hasn't got a 4 litre engine. Or am I simply failing to keep up?
The ///M situation is a farce and has devalued the “real ///M” cars imo. You see the badge everywhere now, it’s crazy.
A friend of mine has just bought a 116 M-sport, really nice car. Whilst talking in the pub, I asked if he’d ever seen a 1M, as it’s a car I really like. He replied that his car is 1M, just with a smaller engine :headbang
One of my personal missions with my Z4 coupe has been to remove all the ///M references on the car, e.g gear stick, steering wheel because it isn’t an ///M - but shows they’ve have been doing it for years. It massively devalues the ///M brand, except to those who know the difference hence the fact ///M cars even of old still demand good money.
I actually think Audi (dare I say that on here) did a pretty good job of differentiating their models / brand. All carry the S mark (which I assume means sport) but at least have a different name. S-Line, S3, RS3.
That said, the ///M brand as a stand-alone makes them a s**t ton of money just in merchandise so you could argue that BMW have it right...if you’re looking at it for a business perspective.
Back to the car though, the long slung bonnet is the biggest let down for me. And the lack of differentiation between the lower end models and the M40i which on another thread was my original worry when I saw the M40i for the time - couldn’t see how they could dumb it down as it was already pretty flat.
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The yanks are getting happy. And rightly so..
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Just realised after reading that that the M40i will be the only 6 cylinder.The 30i will be a 2 litre!warmasice wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:58 pm The yanks are getting happy. And rightly so..
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