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Shmee has released a first look video

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Post by sunnydays » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:41 pm

The european version of the car gets 340bhp with the US version getting 380bhp. On top of that the 0-62mph is rated at 4.6s???
The 35is ran this in 4.4s from the factory (Evo Mag). Is this a joke? How can performance barely of moved, no doubt it will be slower than 4.6s for the European versions as they are 340bhp rather than 380bhp.

All this talk of weight saving, yet the new car comes weighing in over 1500kg, what a joke.

The interior seats are beautiful, the rest of the car from an aesthetic perspective is okay, but the front end seems out of place and the rear is just too box shaped. The rear lights are beautiful aswell!

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Post by z4pilot » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:57 pm

Z4 Beemer wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:37 pm I'm not seeing anything particularly "wrong" with the side profile... :? Looks are always subjective.

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Relative to it's overall length, those wheels are too close together - they need to be pushed out to the extremities. The rears particularly look too far in.
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Post by skelters » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:02 pm

It looked better with the black and white camouflage than in any colour seen so far.

Looks like the bastard offspring of an unmentionable weekend threesome with an S2000, SLK and a Fiat Spyder.

This car was to be a Boxster rival? Wonder how long the sales people at Porsche will take to stop laughing.

The front, the back, the middle? Which is worse?

Interior for the Bluetooth generation. Ok if you like gadgets. Probably ok to live with.

The same guy who scribbled this abomination also designed the 1 or 2 series suv pretendy off roader bollocks thing. That should have given BMW enough of a warning. Perhaps he's never seen a convertible before and it was a last minute design on a Sunday night after being on the beer, whisky and German hookers all weekend.

Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly and ugly!

That's my last comment on this monstrosity. I'll just pretend it doesn't exist from now on as BMW ended production of the Z4 in 2009.
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:19 pm

skelters wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:02 pm It looked better with the black and white camouflage than in any colour seen so far.

Looks like the bastard offspring of an unmentionable weekend threesome with an S2000, SLK and a Fiat Spyder.

This car was to be a Boxster rival? Wonder how long the sales people at Porsche will take to stop laughing.

The front, the back, the middle? Which is worse?

Interior for the Bluetooth generation. Ok if you like gadgets. Probably ok to live with.

The same guy who scribbled this abomination also designed the 1 or 2 series suv pretendy off roader bollocks thing. That should have given BMW enough of a warning. Perhaps he's never seen a convertible before and it was a last minute design on a Sunday night after being on the beer, whisky and German hookers all weekend.

Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly and ugly!

That's my last comment on this monstrosity. I'll just pretend it doesn't exist from now on as BMW ended production of the Z4 in 2009.
And how does it drive...?? Any idea...?? Or are we poo pooing it purely on looks?

My 981 looks a pile s**t...I don’t like the looks of it but damn it’s a cracking car to drive.. :thumbsup:
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Post by skelters » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:23 pm

john-e89 wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:19 pm
skelters wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:02 pm It looked better with the black and white camouflage than in any colour seen so far.

Looks like the bastard offspring of an unmentionable weekend threesome with an S2000, SLK and a Fiat Spyder.

This car was to be a Boxster rival? Wonder how long the sales people at Porsche will take to stop laughing.

The front, the back, the middle? Which is worse?

Interior for the Bluetooth generation. Ok if you like gadgets. Probably ok to live with.

The same guy who scribbled this abomination also designed the 1 or 2 series suv pretendy off roader bollocks thing. That should have given BMW enough of a warning. Perhaps he's never seen a convertible before and it was a last minute design on a Sunday night after being on the beer, whisky and German hookers all weekend.

Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly and ugly!

That's my last comment on this monstrosity. I'll just pretend it doesn't exist from now on as BMW ended production of the Z4 in 2009.
And how does it drive...?? Any idea...?? Or are we poo pooing it purely on looks?

My 981 looks a pile s**t...I don’t like the looks of it but damn it’s a cracking car to drive.. :thumbsup:
It could be the best car to drive in the history of man but it doesn't exist to me anymore as it's just so fugly.

How was your experience driving it? Better than the Porsche? Worse? Same?
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Post by john-e89 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:27 pm

skelters wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:23 pm
john-e89 wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:19 pm
skelters wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:02 pm It looked better with the black and white camouflage than in any colour seen so far.

Looks like the bastard offspring of an unmentionable weekend threesome with an S2000, SLK and a Fiat Spyder.

This car was to be a Boxster rival? Wonder how long the sales people at Porsche will take to stop laughing.

The front, the back, the middle? Which is worse?

Interior for the Bluetooth generation. Ok if you like gadgets. Probably ok to live with.

The same guy who scribbled this abomination also designed the 1 or 2 series suv pretendy off roader bollocks thing. That should have given BMW enough of a warning. Perhaps he's never seen a convertible before and it was a last minute design on a Sunday night after being on the beer, whisky and German hookers all weekend.

Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly and ugly!

That's my last comment on this monstrosity. I'll just pretend it doesn't exist from now on as BMW ended production of the Z4 in 2009.
And how does it drive...?? Any idea...?? Or are we poo pooing it purely on looks?

My 981 looks a pile s**t...I don’t like the looks of it but damn it’s a cracking car to drive.. :thumbsup:
It could be the best car to drive in the history of man but it doesn't exist to me anymore as it's just so fugly.

How was your experience driving it? Better than the Porsche? Worse? Same?
I haven’t driven it just as you haven’t, but I’m not condemning it purely on looks. If you don’t like it without having driven it that’s fine obviously.
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Post by MrPT » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:33 pm

z4pilot wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:57 pm
Z4 Beemer wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:37 pm I'm not seeing anything particularly "wrong" with the side profile... :? Looks are always subjective.

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Relative to it's overall length, those wheels are too close together - they need to be pushed out to the extremities. The rears particularly look too far in.
Yeah, compared to the concept it’s gained front overhang and lost the slight bonnet bulge that was a characteristic of the E86 and E89.

Early vids were very complimentary re the handling. Hopefully the straight line performance won’t matter too much.
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Post by SpiketheBike » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:41 pm

Posted this using quick reply before, which doesn't seem to work. So apologies if this appears more than once.
I think it looks like the illegitimate love child of an F Type and an SLK, incorporating the worst of both. Back end is too high, and bland. Something not right with the front end, not quite sure what. Dont like the bonnet or grilles. Can't stand Shmee either. :lol: :driving:
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Post by tomscott » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:23 am

I think it looks and sounds really rather nice.

Much better compromise to the E89 over E85. Somewhere in the middle, dont think it will be a cayman boxster beater but it will fit somewhere in-between.

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Post by philbo909 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:30 am

Z4 Beemer wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:37 pm I'm not seeing anything particularly "wrong" with the side profile... :? Looks are always subjective.

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No I don't understand the side profile issue, and the rear looks better than the e89
Just the headlights I don't like, should have been less vertical
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Post by sars » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:28 am

It's funny to hear someone griping about 1500 kg being excessively heavy for a car, the 2.5 litre PDK Boxster's unladen weight (EC) is 1460 kg (source Porsche UK technical page for Boxster S) and I don't think I've heard anyone say that's lardy! If you want something light buy an MX-5 or a lotus.

Also manufacturers performance figures are minimum values, so it's unsurprising that the E89 when tested by EVO was quicker than published data. Both cars have similar torque levels, the G29 is allegedly lighter by 50 kg so one would expect slightly better acceleration but really that's going to be down to gearing more than anything else.

So much negativity before we've actually seen it in the flesh or driven it.....hmmm, just like the E89 when it replaced the E85 :lol:
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Post by Z4 Beemer » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:41 am

Indeed sars, the negative comments are slightly amusing. Like you, I’ve owned the E85 and E89, both great cars in their day, with their own unique positives. The G29 moves things on, it’s fresh, modern and technically advanced. :D
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Post by TitanTim » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:47 am

I don't think BMW will ever make a nimble sports roadster, I imagine the American Market dictates boulevard cruiser like the old model. I still wished BMW would make the Z4 smaller aka Z3 size and give it the nimbleness of an MX5 to make it a bonefide sports car. Its too similar to the old model except theyve tried saving weight with a rag top. Of course as said we don't know how it drives but I'm honestly not expecting anything exciting.

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Post by ErrErrminator » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:28 am

Looks ok. Some overly fussy details, but that just seems the way styling is going a lot these days.

One thing I do really dislike about these demo/press cars is the the finish. What is it with matt paint (or vinyl wrap, whatever)? I think it looks awful and does the car no favours at all.

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Post by GuidoK » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:44 am

sars wrote: Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:28 am It's funny to hear someone griping about 1500 kg being excessively heavy for a car, the 2.5 litre PDK Boxster's unladen weight (EC) is 1460 kg (source Porsche UK technical page for Boxster S) and I don't think I've heard anyone say that's lardy!
Then you havent read reviews of say a car like the new alpine.
Btw the ec weight of the z4 35is is 1600kg, so if this ones 50kg lighter, the ec weight will be 1550kg
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