Is the Harman/Kardon Worth it in m40i ?

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Post by RustyZ4 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:49 pm

It really depends how much of an audiophile you are, certainly the HK is a big step up from the standard system, but for me (a sado audiophile) it lacks depth and the midrange gets a little muddled, I know it boast 16 speakers, but that's just quantity not necessarily quality.
I went for the hi fi spec so I got the amount of speaker places I required, then swapped them all out for Audison and Eton speakers, changed the amp for the Audison Forza and added a monobloc for the bass
But for most people it will be fine, is it worth the extra money, well that's up to you
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Post by Wyldie85 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:15 pm

Having had a HK system in our 2010 320d and in our 2018 X5 in Portugal, I assumed it was a must have. The sound was awesome in both of these cars and I was really looking forward to having it in the Z4.

Despite numerous tweaks to the equaliser, the surround sound levels and with different music genres, it sounds like two separate systems (speakers are in the front and then behind the seats). It’s muffled, disjointed and the bass is tinny and flat sounding,

I know when speakers are new they take time to bed in and warm up but I cant see these getting much better.

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Post by thecremeegg » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:07 pm

Wait til you try a Mercedes stock audio system - truly abysmal! Worst part about my C300, but I couldn't get the upgraded speakers without the Premium Plus pack which meant having to have a sunroof which meant I had no headroom....argh!

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Post by Chris_D » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:11 pm

Aftermarket is always the best way to go imo.
Get yourself some swap-in Focals, Infinitys or JBL's for an infinitely better and cheaper speaker upgrade
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Post by Samiad » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 pm

Is it straightforward to 'swap in' the speakers with a better option (i.e. are the speakers proprietary or do they use a standard size that could literally be swapped in/out easily?)

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Post by Pbondar » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:14 pm

Samiad wrote:
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Is it straightforward to 'swap in' the speakers with a better option (i.e. are the speakers proprietary or do they use a standard size that could literally be swapped in/out easily?)
Not much documentation yet but if they follow all other BMW’s then it will be a proprietary design
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Post by RustyZ4 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:36 pm

Samiad wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 pm
Is it straightforward to 'swap in' the speakers with a better option (i.e. are the speakers proprietary or do they use a standard size that could literally be swapped in/out easily?)
Audison, Hertz and Eton all make speakers that can be direct replacements in BMW, I don't see why the new car would be any different
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Post by Pbondar » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:43 pm

RustyZ4 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:36 pm
Samiad wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 pm
Is it straightforward to 'swap in' the speakers with a better option (i.e. are the speakers proprietary or do they use a standard size that could literally be swapped in/out easily?)
Audison, Hertz and Eton all make speakers that can be direct replacements in BMW, I don't see why the new car would be any different
So far Audison and Eton have not released any yet for the G29....
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Post by RustyZ4 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:32 pm

Pbondar wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:43 pm
RustyZ4 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:36 pm
Samiad wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:57 pm
Is it straightforward to 'swap in' the speakers with a better option (i.e. are the speakers proprietary or do they use a standard size that could literally be swapped in/out easily?)
Audison, Hertz and Eton all make speakers that can be direct replacements in BMW, I don't see why the new car would be any different
So far Audison and Eton have not released any yet for the G29....
That's a shame, are they non proprietary sizes then? or have they just not updated their configurators, as I cant imagine BMW would start using non standard size speakers, but then again nothing would surprise me with car manufacturers
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Post by Pbondar » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:19 pm

RustyZ4 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:32 pm
Pbondar wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:43 pm
RustyZ4 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:36 pm
Audison, Hertz and Eton all make speakers that can be direct replacements in BMW, I don't see why the new car would be any different
So far Audison and Eton have not released any yet for the G29....
That's a shame, are they non proprietary sizes then? or have they just not updated their configurators, as I cant imagine BMW would start using non standard size speakers, but then again nothing would surprise me with car manufacturers
All the speakers on the E89 are non standard in the sense that they use offset/asymmetrical mounting points / form factors....they also use proprietary connectors...apart from that they are standard.. :thumbsup:

Can’t see BMW ruining the habits of a lifetime...
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