Alpina Market Watch

[Number5]

There are two silver Alpina's up for sale at the moment. This one above at £15995 (#017) and the other one (#251) for £16.950 at Junction 17 cars near Peterborough.
#017 is a an early 2004 Alpina car on 44k miles and a clearly a lux model. (mine is #019) Early cars had the brown/bronze radio,/console colour. It also appears to have a nicer refurbished and now slightly thicker Royals steering wheel rather than the standard thinner OEM wheel stitching.

#251 is a later 2006 car with the black radio, console parts and was spotted for sale at the same dealer in Jan 2019 with the same mileage and the original ask was £20k, so I'd imagine they're already near if not beyond a loss on it. Its also badly described as its not a Lux model, but quoted with Xenons, which I dont think it has, as the headlight switch has the leveling control wheel, which normally indicates halogens and is in-line with the no Nav, non Lux spec. The addition of an aftermarket bluetooth device also suggests it wasn't standard and again was part of the Lux spec.

I know which one I'd buy out of the two.

[john-e89]

There are two silver Alpina's up for sale at the moment. This one above at £15995 (#017) and the other one (#251) for £16.950 at Junction 17 cars near Peterborough.
#017 is a an early 2004 Alpina car on 44k miles and a clearly a lux model. (mine is #019) Early cars had the brown/bronze radio,/console colour. It also appears to have a nicer refurbished and now slightly thicker Royals steering wheel rather than the standard thinner OEM wheel stitching.

#251 is a later 2006 car with the black radio, console parts and was spotted for sale at the same dealer in Jan 2019 with the same mileage and the original ask was £20k, so I'd imagine they're already near if not beyond a loss on it. Its also badly described as its not a Lux model, but quoted with Xenons, which I dont think it has, as the headlight switch has the leveling control wheel, which normally indicates halogens and is in-line with the no Nav, non Lux spec. The addition of an aftermarket bluetooth device also suggests it wasn't standard and again was part of the Lux spec.

I know which one I'd buy out of the two.

I’m guessing you’ve seen the Romans black car for sale Alan, what’s your opinion of the £20k ask...? Looks an absolute beauty but even with a hardtop and the mileage it’s just too much no..? Tell me I’m wrong if I am...which is probably true..

[Number5]

#317 - It’s very nice but top money John If you’re looking for a mint classic that’s probably it, but personally it’s not my first choice colour combination as black isn’t an easy colour to maintain. Black leather I like but black paintwork Is hard to keep clean. I’m also not a big fan of red leather.

The hard top is worth £800 I suppose so that softens it slightly but do you need a hard top on a car you’re not likely to bring out in the wet ?
The last Alpina still in the 20k mile area was the Sterling Cat C car and that went through auction at £11k and is now floating around various showrooms at £14k but not really a like for like comparison.

Maybe a middle ground around £17.5k would be a better price if it’s a car and combination that floats your boat. I can’t see a 25k mile ZMR fetching £20k so I’d be looking for more of an even level personally.

[john-e89]

#317 - It’s very nice but top money John If you’re looking for a mint classic that’s probably it, but personally it’s not my first choice colour combination as black isn’t an easy colour to maintain. Black leather I like but black paintwork Is hard to keep clean. I’m also not a big fan of red leather.

The hard top is worth £800 I suppose so that softens it slightly but do you need a hard top on a car you’re not likely to bring out in the wet ?
The last Alpina still in the 20k mile area was the Sterling Cat C car and that went through auction at £11k and is now floating around various showrooms at £14k but not really a like for like comparison.

Maybe a middle ground around £17.5k would be a better price if it’s a car and combination that floats your boat. I can’t see a 25k mile ZMR fetching £20k so I’d be looking for more of an even level personally.

That’s bang on where I was thinking too Alan, 18k tops. Colour combo purely personal choice of course, a fine example regardless.

[motoroller]

A question on values, I have been the owner of #116 for a while but with a kid and 3 other cars on the drive it doesn't see much use.

If you could potentially do with the money but aren't itching to get rid of the car, would you try and sell now? Or is it better to wait (and if so, how long for?)

Roadster S 3.4 Lux, 126k miles if I remember correctly. Huge box of receipts, I think values have plummeted a bit so may want to hold on for next summer.

[john-e89]

A question on values, I have been the owner of #116 for a while but with a kid and 3 other cars on the drive it doesn't see much use.

If you could potentially do with the money but aren't itching to get rid of the car, would you try and sell now? Or is it better to wait (and if so, how long for?)

Roadster S 3.4 Lux, 126k miles if I remember correctly. Huge box of receipts, I think values have plummeted a bit so may want to hold on for next summer.

I’d say if you can hang on until next year then do that, it’s probably the worst time to be selling a car in years, folk will be waiting to pick up the inevitable bargains that will be coming onto market. Just imo of course.

[MrPT]

Heads up Alpina gang.



https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/200 ... roadster-s

#257. Looks in great nick.

[Number5]

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/200 ... roadster-s
#257. Looks in great nick.

Does look a belter. Not sure about the Auction process though and it doesn't state when the auction starts/ends yet.

[SiJar]

I must admit that I have not seen those particular cars, although I did look at a couple of Z4Ms and the 2 Alpina version last year at Junction 17 in Peterborough and was very disappointed at the general condition of a lot of the cars that they had for sale. I think private is always your best bet.

[GT Spec]

I viewed and test drove the Romans car (FJ05NDV). The car was stored outside, poorly presented and the EML was on. The salesman didn't seem remotely interested in selling the car which has been on their inventory for over a year. Strange experience.

[markplant]

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/200 ... roadster-s
#257. Looks in great nick.

Does look a belter. Not sure about the Auction process though and it doesn't state when the auction starts/ends yet.

The auction has now begun

[Number5]

This is the Helrot Red Non-Lux Alpina Rodaster (#257)currently live with Collecting Cars.
It does look very nice but you have to remember that there are auction fees on top of what you bid.
Having read the T&C's, you lodge your credit card number when registering to bid. If you win the auction you are instantly debited the auction fees before you go to collect the car. The Auction fees are 6% + VAT ( min £600).
Therefore so as soon as bidding passes £14500, you pass the £1000 mark on fees in addition to the hammer price.

The sale does include a hard top but the description also mentions a few areas that require attention, which I guess would offset that bonus.

There is currently a Silver, higher spec'd Lux Roadster (#017) for sale on ebay with 44k miles at £15,990 before any negotiation, so unless it goes for a good low hammer price the auction fees can be a real stinger on top, not to mention shelling out the £1k before you go to see the car on collection.

[Aus_Pol]

I viewed and test drove the Romans car (FJ05NDV). The car was stored outside, poorly presented and the EML was on. The salesman didn't seem remotely interested in selling the car which has been on their inventory for over a year. Strange experience.

I test drove it last week of January. Didn't have the EML on at that stage, but yeah, hardly any paperwork. I called every BMW branch, Alpina and the BMW premium servicing line. No record of any services :-/

So crazy, I have the details of the previous owner. But figured it wouldn't be right to reach out.

Yeah similar feeling from them, that they were not that fussed trying to sell.

[GT Spec]

I viewed and test drove the Romans car (FJ05NDV). The car was stored outside, poorly presented and the EML was on. The salesman didn't seem remotely interested in selling the car which has been on their inventory for over a year. Strange experience.

I test drove it last week of January. Didn't have the EML on at that stage, but yeah, hardly any paperwork. I called every BMW branch, Alpina and the BMW premium servicing line. No record of any services :-/

So crazy, I have the details of the previous owner. But figured it wouldn't be right to reach out.

Yeah similar feeling from them, that they were not that fussed trying to sell.

I reached out to the previous owner. He was a helpful chap and sounded passionate about the car.

I was ready to buy it but the salesman totally turned me off. Got a low mileage Z4MR instead.

[Aus_Pol]

Got a job again! (after 4 months of Covid searching).

So back in the market!

Wonder when prices will budge online ... judging from chat's I have had, there is going to be a few million job losses come August.