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Post by Nodzed » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:44 am

Shame indeed ,Brian cherished that car, when he sold it the condition was excellent
,A chap off zorg bought it last i heard,sad to see it go downhill so quick :(
Had it been an auto i wudda bought it off him no problem.
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I am that chap. Just to set the record straight here.

The door handle didnt work correctly when I purchased the car and I never got around to sorting it.
The electronic steering was faulty when I bought it and I gave up trying to sort it.
The only lights on the dash when it left me was a ABS light and Syntners were aware and accepted the car with this fault even though I was prepared to get the front N/S sensor replaced.
The stone chipped front bumper (which was replaced before I purchased ther car) was, by advice of a local body shop, poorly resprayed in their opinion.
Under my ownership the following (necessary work) was carried out.
New thermostat
New battery
New pulleys and belts
CCV replaced
Main vacuum hose replaced
New front disks and pads
Head Gasket replaced
As for the body work, I did a little over 3k in the car over 2 years, with the exception of the front valance the body work was in the same condition as when I bought it, it needed mopping then and it still needed mopping when I sold it. There was NO scapes or damage, the car has sat outside in a compound at the BMW dealers for over 2 months (it never sat outside during my ownership nor the previous owners) I can only imagine the state its in or whats hit it.

As for servicing, a few months before it left me it had a full service including plugs, gearbox and diff oils.
You can be assured the car left me in better condition than when I recieved it.
In those 2 years I spent over £3000 on the car and decided to call it a day as it needed far more spent on it, and I just didnt like it enough to do it.

Just to add I purchased the car over the phone untried and untested and only seen once at a meet, at my own risk. This post is not in any way a dig or complaint about the previous owner, just a defense of myself from people who are not in possession of the facts and therefore are not in a position to judge or make ill-informed comment.
BTW shiny paint does NOT make a car excellent!

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Post by Aus_Pol » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:15 pm

Anyone been talking to Romans over the 26k example?

They have had it now almost 4 months.

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Post by PerryGunn » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:13 pm

A two-owner car and the lowest mileage example I've seen available in a very, very, very long time

Build #: 191
Reg Plate: BM02 BEE
Exterior Colour: Sterling Grey
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: £22,500
Mileage: 11,352
Location: Leicestershire, private seller
URL of advert: https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds ... 05/9953527
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Post by zedwheels » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:13 am

Nodzed wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:44 am
Shame indeed ,Brian cherished that car, when he sold it the condition was excellent
,A chap off zorg bought it last i heard,sad to see it go downhill so quick :(
Had it been an auto i wudda bought it off him no problem.
M

I am that chap. Just to set the record straight here.

The door handle didnt work correctly when I purchased the car and I never got around to sorting it.
The electronic steering was faulty when I bought it and I gave up trying to sort it.
The only lights on the dash when it left me was a ABS light and Syntners were aware and accepted the car with this fault even though I was prepared to get the front N/S sensor replaced.
The stone chipped front bumper (which was replaced before I purchased ther car) was, by advice of a local body shop, poorly resprayed in their opinion.
Under my ownership the following (necessary work) was carried out.
New thermostat
New battery
New pulleys and belts
CCV replaced
Main vacuum hose replaced
New front disks and pads
Head Gasket replaced
As for the body work, I did a little over 3k in the car over 2 years, with the exception of the front valance the body work was in the same condition as when I bought it, it needed mopping then and it still needed mopping when I sold it. There was NO scapes or damage, the car has sat outside in a compound at the BMW dealers for over 2 months (it never sat outside during my ownership nor the previous owners) I can only imagine the state its in or whats hit it.

As for servicing, a few months before it left me it had a full service including plugs, gearbox and diff oils.
You can be assured the car left me in better condition than when I recieved it.
In those 2 years I spent over £3000 on the car and decided to call it a day as it needed far more spent on it, and I just didnt like it enough to do it.


WOW, Reading this, i'm sorry N but it does hurt to think that you were unhappy after buying the car. I do understand that you meant it in a defensive manner but it implies that I didn't look after it or even sold it to you knowing it to be faulty! I had no idea it had a faulty handle or steering. During the time I had it, I too had paid my indy to replace all the discs, the pads, shocks, top mounts and springs, and belts.
I also had a new front splitter fitted and sprayed by a local garage because the original had some damage from a kerb, I cant comment on the standard of paintwork because I'm no expert but it looked good to me. I also have no experience in working on cars so everything I had done was by a local Indy and paid for.
When you came to pick up the car I did say take it out for a test drive but you declined, and to be fair I wouldn't have objected to you having it for a few days before deciding, after all I had to wait for the 1 series to be delivered to Cardiff from another depot which took 3 weeks. If you wasn't happy with it I wouldn't have refused you a full refund, I was only getting the same value that Sytners offered against the 1 series.
I did watch some of your posts after you had it and got quite envious to see you out and about in it on days out and even doing some track days, something I would have liked to have done myself but never got around to it.
We have been part of the same forum for some years and I can say in support of your post above that you are a serious Zed enthusiast and careful owner, so I was as surprised by what was said about the cars condition as anyone. Maybe you didn't mean it but your comments do insinuate that I mis-sold you a car that I had owned and cherished for 7 years.
Sorry N that you were so disappointed with your purchase.

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Post by Number5 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:53 am

The above makes sad reading on behalf of both parties. No blame was intended (by me anyway) , but it was just sad to see the demise of the car. :(

I did hear two weeks ago that Sytners eventually sold it internally at a trade auction where it reached just over £6k and that was after Sytners had had to spend money on it to get it to a saleable condition.
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Post by Marekdawg » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:32 pm

Passing one of these everyday in N London has me interested in them...
Not sure if i've seen this one up:
Build #: 040
Reg Plate: FN04 HYK
Exterior Colour: Black
Interior Colour: Red
Spec: LUX
Price: £13,500
Mileage: 84,000
Location: Swindon
URL of advert: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... l_a_friend

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Post by derin100 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:49 am

Number5 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:53 am
The above makes sad reading on behalf of both parties. No blame was intended (by me anyway) , but it was just sad to see the demise of the car. :(

I did hear two weeks ago that Sytners eventually sold it internally at a trade auction where it reached just over £6k and that was after Sytners had had to spend money on it to get it to a saleable condition.
Sad though the story may seem on one level, to me it highlights something on a different level. It is one which has nothing to do with either of these two owners of the car but rather to do with the nature of expectations fostered through specialist forums, particularly of high performance and rarer cars.

These forums foster unrealistic expectations through focus on minutiae directed towards what is supposed to be 'the perfect example' and even indeed expectations that go beyond that and aims to better the cars than even when new!

It would be unrealistic, if not nigh on impossible, for a car that's around 15 years old and has 140,000 miles on the clock to meet some of these expectations. A car of this age and mileage will always have faults unless someone has gone to the obsessive and near-mindless extent of virtually rebuilding the thing...and then at what ridiculous cost?

I can't see any fault here with either of the two previous owners. All I can see are the unrealistic expectations of others.
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Post by M3Trio » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:57 pm

Nice to see a few people know about this car! Just found this.

Currently enjoying FJ54OAO #105 and happy to report still starts and drives! Bought the car on a whim from a dealer who known for a long time. Looks so good and had a few Alpina's before.

Car been driving fine but battery light was coming on/off so sent car to BMW senior technician to check. The BSD wire was damaged and this was probably same cause for the lights to flash up on dash. Just having a service, new alternator going in same time. One headlight and door needs adjusting. The drivers door handle seems to be intermittent but also getting checked. Otherwise no faults came up. Only other thing I can think of is getting front bumper sprayed, the lower part is very chippy with miles.

At 143k miles it drives and feels way lower miles. Done about 700 miles so far. Its not daily driven as I have a few cars, but getting enough miles.

For sale on Autotrader, no rush. Another person can enjoy the Alpina Roadster.

Just to say Ned & ZedWheels had a nice car and every owner does there own bit. Cold start is so nice!

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Post by golfgeezer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:02 pm

Within this forum font of all knowledge is there anybody here in the Motor Trade that has an account with BCA auctions? There’s an Alpina on there. Buy it now if you’ve an account.
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Post by Number5 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:32 pm

There are currently 6 Roadsters on Ebay

Must be one of the first LHD Models in the UK
Build #: 006
Reg Plate: R11 TKO
Exterior Colour: Titanium Silver
Interior Colour: Black
Spec: Lux
Price: £13,000
Mileage: Discrepancy 67/88k ?? Seems to have gone backwards at some stage !
Location: Thetford
URL of advert:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Alpina-R ... SwuXtda~39
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Post by zedwheels » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:11 pm

M3Trio wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:57 pm
Nice to see a few people know about this car! Just found this.

Currently enjoying FJ54OAO #105 and happy to report still starts and drives! Bought the car on a whim from a dealer who known for a long time. Looks so good and had a few Alpina's before.

Car been driving fine but battery light was coming on/off so sent car to BMW senior technician to check. The BSD wire was damaged and this was probably same cause for the lights to flash up on dash. Just having a service, new alternator going in same time. One headlight and door needs adjusting. The drivers door handle seems to be intermittent but also getting checked. Otherwise no faults came up. Only other thing I can think of is getting front bumper sprayed, the lower part is very chippy with miles.

At 143k miles it drives and feels way lower miles. Done about 700 miles so far. Its not daily driven as I have a few cars, but getting enough miles.

For sale on Autotrader, no rush. Another person can enjoy the Alpina Roadster.

Just to say Ned & ZedWheels had a nice car and every owner does there own bit. Cold start is so nice!

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That's looking really good, :thumbsup:

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Post by zedwheels » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 pm

golfgeezer wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:02 pm
Within this forum font of all knowledge is there anybody here in the Motor Trade that has an account with BCA auctions? There’s an Alpina on there. Buy it now if you’ve an account.

Just had a peek, Reg is FJ 05 JVC. Did that belong to anyone here?

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Post by golfgeezer » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:21 pm

zedwheels wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 pm
golfgeezer wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:02 pm
Within this forum font of all knowledge is there anybody here in the Motor Trade that has an account with BCA auctions? There’s an Alpina on there. Buy it now if you’ve an account.

Just had a peek, Reg is FJ 05 JVC. Did that belong to anyone here?
It’s gone into the auction on Tuesday now. Wonder what it will make? :idunno:
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Post by zedwheels » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:20 pm

golfgeezer wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:21 pm
zedwheels wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 pm
golfgeezer wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:02 pm
Within this forum font of all knowledge is there anybody here in the Motor Trade that has an account with BCA auctions? There’s an Alpina on there. Buy it now if you’ve an account.

Just had a peek, Reg is FJ 05 JVC. Did that belong to anyone here?
It’s gone into the auction on Tuesday now. Wonder what it will make? :idunno:
Wish I had enough spare cash.

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Post by golfgeezer » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:36 pm

zedwheels wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:20 pm
golfgeezer wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:21 pm
zedwheels wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 pm



Just had a peek, Reg is FJ 05 JVC. Did that belong to anyone here?
It’s gone into the auction on Tuesday now. Wonder what it will make? :idunno:
Wish I had enough spare cash.
I don’t know if I can afford it or not but I’m too far away to go and have a bid on it. That’s even if it’s worthy of a bid in the first place.
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