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Lets see your Watches
- BeeEmm
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I am truly amazed at your collection and I am sure there are more. Your knowledge is also admirable. Your manicured nails and presenting skills makes me think that you may sell watches, you obviously have a love of them. As someone very new to starting a collection of 'not new' watches I have little idea what I might be buying and I am extremely cautious. Seeing your watches has given me an extra spur and I would love to own at least two watches on a par with yours. If you have more I, and no doubt others, would be delighted to see them.
I used to have two boys and a girl. Now I have two Men and a Woman.
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You're very wise, BeeEmm, to be cautious.
May I give you a piece of advice? Please forgive me if it's obvious. I don't want to offend you or anyone else, but I think it's worth saying, anyway. It's this. Apart from Rolex* and unless you're rich, never buy a new watch from a shop, unless it's very heavily discounted.
Please remember that the mark-up on most new watches is 60%+, that most watches under, say, £2 or 3K have a large number of parts made in China & surrounding countries, even though the dials say 'Swiss', and that much of the watch world is as close to dishonest as it can be without breaking the law.
Some answers to this problem are to buy second-hand from the watch equivalents of the Z4-forum, from decent online dealers and from shops that have used stock at fair prices, remembering all the while that there are very few good investments in watches..
*As you no doubt know, modern, new-production Rolex value (and, therefore, second-hand value) depends on the box & papers that are available only from authorised dealers.
May I give you a piece of advice? Please forgive me if it's obvious. I don't want to offend you or anyone else, but I think it's worth saying, anyway. It's this. Apart from Rolex* and unless you're rich, never buy a new watch from a shop, unless it's very heavily discounted.
Please remember that the mark-up on most new watches is 60%+, that most watches under, say, £2 or 3K have a large number of parts made in China & surrounding countries, even though the dials say 'Swiss', and that much of the watch world is as close to dishonest as it can be without breaking the law.
Some answers to this problem are to buy second-hand from the watch equivalents of the Z4-forum, from decent online dealers and from shops that have used stock at fair prices, remembering all the while that there are very few good investments in watches..
*As you no doubt know, modern, new-production Rolex value (and, therefore, second-hand value) depends on the box & papers that are available only from authorised dealers.
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- BeeEmm
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Thanks for the advice, Busterboo. I did buy a new Rolex a couple of months ago and I am content for that to be my only new purchase. Thanks again, much appreciated.
I used to have two boys and a girl. Now I have two Men and a Woman.
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A good place to hang out and also acquire GOOD second hand watches from trusted people is to join TZ-UK forum, my other forum that I hang out at under the same name.
Agree with Buster, as long as you are careful and buy secondhand you can’t go wrong as buying new is a sure way to lose lots, if you collect then you will no doubt flip a few along the way and take a hit, exception is Rolex as they tend to be more S/H due to restricted circulation on some models ie the Sub, you only have to look at s/h dealers to see the cost of some subs selling for way over the RRP, SubC going for 2k more, or buy new on a long waiting list.
I’ve learnt the hard way in the past and only buy new on 100% keepers , eg Bought a Speedie in 2008 for £1500, now £3k new, crazy old game but enjoyable.
Agree with Buster, as long as you are careful and buy secondhand you can’t go wrong as buying new is a sure way to lose lots, if you collect then you will no doubt flip a few along the way and take a hit, exception is Rolex as they tend to be more S/H due to restricted circulation on some models ie the Sub, you only have to look at s/h dealers to see the cost of some subs selling for way over the RRP, SubC going for 2k more, or buy new on a long waiting list.
I’ve learnt the hard way in the past and only buy new on 100% keepers , eg Bought a Speedie in 2008 for £1500, now £3k new, crazy old game but enjoyable.
Toys: Z4 E89 35i in Blue / Ducati Multistrada 1260 DVT + love my watches
- BeeEmm
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Thanks Frankie, I have already joined this forum and like you under the same name I use on here.
I used to have two boys and a girl. Now I have two Men and a Woman.
- enzed4
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Is TZ-UK different to TZ? I have heard some bad things about TZ from previous members who have been banned for daring to question the holy writ as handed down by others on the site. Not a healthy or welcoming place at times. Having said that, I'm not a member (was already on WUS, WTF and now more on Omega Forums) so I'm not able to say this from personal experience. I have enough watches of different types that I'm not really active in collecting any more (and was never great at the art of the flip) so I don't have too much exposure to the different forums as they are now.Frankie169 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:36 am A good place to hang out and also acquire GOOD second hand watches from trusted people is to join TZ-UK forum, my other forum that I hang out at under the same name.
Agree with Buster, as long as you are careful and buy secondhand you can’t go wrong as buying new is a sure way to lose lots, if you collect then you will no doubt flip a few along the way and take a hit, exception is Rolex as they tend to be more S/H due to restricted circulation on some models ie the Sub, you only have to look at s/h dealers to see the cost of some subs selling for way over the RRP, SubC going for 2k more, or buy new on a long waiting list.
I’ve learnt the hard way in the past and only buy new on 100% keepers , eg Bought a Speedie in 2008 for £1500, now £3k new, crazy old game but enjoyable.
I'm still on the lookout for a 216750 Explorer II white dial, and then I think I'll really be done.... (yeah, right )
I agree with the above advice regarding buying new or second hand. I bought a Breitling new back in the mid-2000's before prices went silly(er) so that I could experience the whole dealer thing. It was nice, but not nice enough to justify the extra you know you're paying for new. The majority of all my other watches have been pre-owned and purchased from forum members
Gone: 2010 35i DCT
Gone: 2008 2.5Si Sport
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TZ-UK is a different forum, I’ve been on it for years and never come across any problems or people being banned, however I’m also on WuS and they are a funny bunch as people seem to banned all the time over there, still they are both great sources of information.
Toys: Z4 E89 35i in Blue / Ducati Multistrada 1260 DVT + love my watches
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- BeeEmm
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Date Just with a Blue Dial. Fitted my brief of a sweeping second hand and an easily seen date.
I used to have two boys and a girl. Now I have two Men and a Woman.
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Rolex blue is particularly good, isn't it? And the DJ configuration, together with the Jubilee bracelet is really classic. I envy your choice.
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Here is my Lemania WWW 'Dirty Dozen' watch. So called because the military wanted a new watch towards the end of the 2nd World War and approached 13 Swiss manufacturers to provide them. Unfortunately it is said that one manufacturer was making watches for the Nazis and so it the contract was awarded to only 12. Most were delivered in 1945. The holy grail is to collect all 12. The manufacturers were: Buren, Cyma, Eterna, Grana, Jaeger-LeCoultre, Lemania, Longines, IWC, Omega, Record, Timor, and Vertex. Grana are the most rare. Not a pretty watch but collectable.
2004 Sapphire Black 2.5 SE Z4 SMG
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Added this Glycine Eugene Meylan to my collection. It’s a remake of the original 1930s first automatic designed by the Glycine founder Eugene Maryland. It’s an ETA movement 42mm
My Cars
2021 X3 M Sport loaded with Tec
1974 Triumph TR6 in Mimosa Yellow
Gone but not forgotten
2008 Z4 3.0 SI Roadster
2021 X3 M Sport loaded with Tec
1974 Triumph TR6 in Mimosa Yellow
Gone but not forgotten
2008 Z4 3.0 SI Roadster
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- Lifer
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My good lady wife has just bought me this Citizen Eco drive. Super slim, plain and simple and never needs winding or batteries.
My last one is still going after 14 years
My last one is still going after 14 years
G29 M30i M Sport San Francisco Red
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E89 35is Valencia Orange
E89 28i Crimson
E89 25i White
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E89 35is Valencia Orange
E89 28i Crimson
E89 25i White
- enzed4
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Classic look, and won't break the bank
Gone: 2010 35i DCT
Gone: 2008 2.5Si Sport
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Incoming to add to my collection tomorrow
My Cars
2021 X3 M Sport loaded with Tec
1974 Triumph TR6 in Mimosa Yellow
Gone but not forgotten
2008 Z4 3.0 SI Roadster
2021 X3 M Sport loaded with Tec
1974 Triumph TR6 in Mimosa Yellow
Gone but not forgotten
2008 Z4 3.0 SI Roadster